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« on: July 18, 2014, 12:49:10 AM »

Sorry Perry, I couldn't find a Fox News link for you but right on the heels of announcing Thor will be a girl, Marvel announced today that Captain America will be black.  This doesn't phase me like the Thor thing though.  I mean it is Sam, aka the Falcon, so it makes complete sense. And it's not unprecedented since several people, including Bucky, have wielded the shield.


So I have to ask.  Will they have an announcement tomorrow that Hulk or Iron-Man will be gay?
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2014, 01:29:41 AM »

Ha, I know Iron Man is in a white suit now ... not sure what that is about. Don't care much either.  Grin

And Again, many people have been Thor before as well. Don't get too caught up in the "This is a woman THOR" that Marvel is trying to preach, because it isn't ... really. Thor is still around, he just has an ax now, as he lost Mjornir and is no longer worthy to be ... ummm ... Thor. It's a matter of semantics, but Thor is still Thor, he just doesn't have his hammer.

The Thor thing shouldn't bother you anymore than Sam being Cap. Both heroes have been replaced many times before and will be so again.
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I am kinda hoping that the new Thor is Valkyrie, but as the new Dr. Strange comic is just around the corner that may just be me wanting the original Defenders to get back together.
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2014, 03:25:18 AM »

We'll if that's all it is really then it won't bother me.  Not the same as what DC did to Wally West.

I do wish they could get someone to write the Defenders decently again.  Maybe Lanning or Aaron.  They would have interesting and very different takes on the team.  Heck, mayb PAD.
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2014, 01:38:30 PM »

The struggle with writing the Defenders hasn't changed in ... years. Hell, since their conception. It is just hard to find reasons for those characters to be together.

Aaron is doing a similar thing in Sin, pairing the likes of Punisher and Strange, but he is saying the reason for that will be revealed. Wish he would do the same with Strange and a few more characters in a Defenders book.
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2014, 05:23:45 PM »

Just another chapter in the saga that is, and is being, Captain America.

I'm down for it. All is good by me. Smiley

We'll...see about Iron Man. Character was really trashed in my eyes by Kieron Gillen there, dontchaya know.
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2014, 05:34:10 PM »

We'll...see about Iron Man. Character was really trashed in my eyes by Kieron Gillen there, dontchaya know.

Never read any of it. I have heard something about ...Possible Spoilers ... maybe ...
Tony not being a true Stark, adopted or something and his real dad is an alien or something?

Hell, I don't know if that's right or even close, but something like that, maybe. Is that close?
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2014, 06:45:11 PM »

I'm not surprised about the Kieron Gillen age being bad.  It was awful on Uncanny X-Men as well.
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2014, 07:06:22 PM »

I'm not surprised about the Kieron Gillen age being bad.  It was awful on Uncanny X-Men as well.

That's too bad. I really liked his brief Thor run. Really good stuff in there.
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2014, 01:31:08 PM »

We'll...see about Iron Man. Character was really trashed in my eyes by Kieron Gillen there, dontchaya know.

Never read any of it. I have heard something about ...Possible Spoilers ... maybe ...
Tony not being a true Stark, adopted or something and his real dad is an alien or something?

Hell, I don't know if that's right or even close, but something like that, maybe. Is that close?

Pretty close

Howard & Maria Stark had a bun baking, but it was gonna be sick or somesuch, and the High Evolutionary said Howard's genius must be kept on in his son, so that the world has an engineer to keep the world safe from encroaching aliens. So, the H-E tinkered some and Howard's son was born-Arno Stark, that is. But he had to live in an iron lung, so Howard adopted another son, named him Tony, and both nature & nurture sons grew up to be brilliant engineer wunderkinds.  Roll Eyes

That's about the pace of it for Gillen's Iron Man work.
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2014, 02:34:48 PM »

Hmmm, thanks for that.  Cool I understand better. And ... no thanks for that also  Wink.

But, the great things about comics ... nothing is cannon forever.

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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2014, 05:19:43 PM »

Sam's been teased a couple of times to take the role of Cap.  Perhaps even more, but 2 times is all that comes to mind.  Once when Rogers was shot a few years back and the other when Cap became "The Captain" and John Walker took over.

As "gimmick" as it might be, it's great to finally see it.  It interests me far more than when Bucky took over.

Does anyone know if Sam will keep the wings while in the Cap role?
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2014, 08:44:05 PM »

Does anyone know if Sam will keep the wings while in the Cap role?

Saw one pic with him with them. And I think (not sure) that I read Remender discuss how different this Cap will be, being able to fly, and talk to birds.
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I say not sure because, well, some days the drugs hit harder than other days and sometimes dreams seem real. So it could be all a dream.
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2014, 09:43:51 PM »

I found visual confirmation: http://comicrelated.com/news/26244/marvel-house-of-ideas
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