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Title: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Perry on September 13, 2021, 01:48:53 PM

The first trailer dropped and ... WOW!!!

So much Fraction and Aja in here that I think this is ... this may just be ... the best Marvel show yet!!!



Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Jeff on September 13, 2021, 09:33:02 PM
Looks great!


Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Jimmy T on September 13, 2021, 11:26:44 PM
YES!!!


Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Perry on November 28, 2021, 05:35:28 PM
Episode 1

Ugh.

Not overly good or bad. Just there.

Sure, they throw in all the little tidbits that made the Fraction/Aja comic so fun, so that stuff is in there, but man the fun isn't. There is nothing super bad, at least not ones that hit you hard, or immediate and nothing too drastic, but for me and the style of filming I enjoy, I think it is going to be a long season. Or a very short one maybe, if the second episode is anything like this first one.

Again, hey, there is nothing too dreadful here... it will have its fans and I am sure this will be a good show for lots of folks (like Jeff and "the kid" for example. This has the making of a great shot to watch together and I hope they dig the hell out of it!!), but it is just very close to being in that "boring" and/or "CW" style without actually getting to either.  :D
I think I may have turned too boorish in my old age for these shows.

But little things can get stuck in my head and I won't let them go. Like a fight scene, where they have "Kate" make all of those damn sounds when she is fighting, it irks my ears almost the entire "fight" to which turns me off not just the entire scene, but a few minutes afterwards. It FORCES me to roll my eyes and it is all I can think of even halfway in the next scene. But the noises  :D ... it is akin to... to use a semi-recently discussed general sports topic... it is like listening to a Sharapova/Monica Seles tennis match  :D :D

Yes, I am worried about this show, but I am also hoping it gets better for me. I do think there is enjoyable stuff here, but most of it is hidden. I hope they bring more of it out as the show progresses. I am scared that Marvel live action television shows are going to go with an "every other one" routine... if this first episode is any indication.

- An interesting approach - WandaVision
- A boring ass cookie cutter approach - Falcon Winter Soldier
- An interesting approach - Loki
- A boring ass cookie cutter approach - Hawkeye

Of course if that reoccurrence of style does hold true then I should be pretty damn sad about Moon Knight coming out after Ms. Marvel.
 :)


Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Jeff on November 29, 2021, 01:54:59 AM
- An interesting approach - WandaVision
- A boring ass cookie cutter approach - Falcon Winter Soldier
- An interesting approach - Loki
- A boring ass cookie cutter approach - Hawkeye

You forgot What If?


Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Perry on November 29, 2021, 01:22:26 PM

You forgot What If?

NUH-UH   ;)

... I am scared that Marvel live action television shows are going to go with an "every other one" routine...

 :P

 ;D


Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Gay Titan on November 29, 2021, 02:23:55 PM
Fell asleep during the first episode. Kate as a young child was annoying AF. I will try again tonight.


Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Perry on November 29, 2021, 02:44:11 PM
Kate as a young child was annoying AF. 

 :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Jeff on November 29, 2021, 11:19:18 PM

You forgot What If?

NUH-UH  ;)

... I am scared that Marvel live action television shows are going to go with an "every other one" routine...



 :P

 ;D

Ah ha!  Okay - now I'm up to speed.


Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Jimmy T on November 30, 2021, 03:50:52 AM
With less vitriol than Perry, I too have watched the first episode and thought "it was fine. good enough."

Want to know what took me out of the first ep, that I TOTALLY knew was going to happen?

the same thing that happened in the Black Widow movie.

that's having regular norms fighting like Superman.

the fight in the streets with the Tracksuit mafia would simply kill the 22 something year old girl. There's a reason that boxers have weight classes; so that the big guys don't kill the lighter weight fighters. Black Widow's fights were such nonsense; falling off buildings, getting up ready to fight and run like nuts. I don't like it, and it takes me out of a movie.

Widow's initial fights in Iron Man 2 were against single guards, using weapons and tasers and ropes in take down movies; not standing face to face and beating the physical crap out of someone in front of them.

This is my hill that I die on. It's something that ruins some movies for me, and it...bugs the crap out of me here.


Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Perry on November 30, 2021, 12:53:58 PM
Yep, oh how I understand that sentiment, Jimmy.

And again, I think we both feel the same about the show. That it is "Fine".

That is the main problem for me  :-\

(That what happens in the next episode)
 ;)

I liked the 2nd episode a little better. Not enough to keep going though. I mean I don't have young ones running around, I don't do Disney much at all, so I think, maybe, after my sub to Disney+ runs out this month, I will not be renewing it. We will see. Maybe another episode in I will change my mind. I did so love the Hawkeye comic and the few issues I have seen Kate and Clint in were pretty well done. They have a good chemistry, so maybe that will pull me in.

Luckily this show is not the only reason I signed back up for Disney+ or I would be a little let down. Thank goodness for the Peter Jackson's Beatles doc "Get Back".
I have only watched the first episode of that, and even though the first half of that said first episode was a little rough to sit through, it soon started to get to the meat and potatoes of the Beatles drama. And it seems what I, and others, have suspected for years may just be true. The Beatles died when Brian Epstein did. Not even the fifth Beatle (George Martin) could save them.
Damn that still bothers me. The whole what could have been. Okay, sorry for the thread hijack
 :-\


Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Perry on December 02, 2021, 01:57:13 PM
Well then, okay, maybe this will be okay?

Watched episode #3 yesterday and... yeah, I liked it, a good bit too.

Fans of comics will already know who the "Uncle" is and of course we know who episode three's "bad/not so bad" gal is as well, but still, I liked it.

Odd


Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Gay Titan on December 02, 2021, 03:04:33 PM
I admit I cheated and used wiki to look up Jack Duquesne.


Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Perry on December 09, 2021, 04:39:55 PM
I admit I cheated and used wiki to look up Jack Duquesne.

 ;D
Right on!

Am an old ass so I knew as soon as I saw that 'stache
 :D :D

Still interested to see what "version" of that character they use here. We also
know about her mom in the comic, but is that going to be different here?
seems like they are setting it up, or at least I am seeing it that way.

I will say that while episode 4 had more problems, again, like how she
suddenly forgets how much she hates/distrusts this man her mom is with that she starts smiling while they dance because he is making her mom happy? WTF? NO!
the show is still better than what the first two episode showed me.

Happy for that.

I damn sure didn't see that roof scene reveal coming!
 :o :o


Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: jedicow on December 11, 2021, 03:18:25 AM
i just finished ep4 and as someone who has not read the Fraction books (or any Marvel output since Civil War), I am really enjoying this series.


Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Perry on December 11, 2021, 10:51:26 AM
i just finished ep4 and as someone who has not read the Fraction books (or any Marvel output since Civil War), I am really enjoying this series.

Well you sir, missed a fantastic run!!

At some point you should definitely give it a try. Hey, check your library for the free version!  :)


Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Jimmy T on December 14, 2021, 02:07:12 AM
Fraction's 'Hawk-guy' was excellent. Very much worth the read!

And I and my wife have fallen 2 eps behind on this again!!


Title: Re: Hawkeye on Disney+
Post by: Perry on December 22, 2021, 04:45:57 PM
Episode #6

UGH, and right when I was getting to the point where the amount of idiotic things that happens in this show has both lessoned in occurrence and didn't bother me as bad when it did happen and then this episode reared its foolish head.

I'm only about halfway through this one episode but I had to take a break as the "stupidity level" of this show just shot up to 180%.

All of these explosions, gunshots, fires, power surges and, oh yeah, hundreds upon hundreds of people screaming running in the streets while running out of this building (which is right near if not in 30 Rock New York) all while 90 guys dressed in F'n Track suits run around firing guns at will, yet not one single cop has appeared in any scene, for the last 15 minutes!?!?!

Jesus, I hate... I can't stand stupid ass shit just done for "action".

I don't mind that Hawkeye would have been seriously hurt had he fell into that tree. That is the sort of stuff I can let go, ya know, in the spirit of the comic. I can let go of the fact that Hawkeye faces off or runs from 8 guys shooting at him and not one time does a bullet even graze his person. I can let all that shit go, but when you have a scene in downtown freaking New York, in one of the most busy places you can be in, at Christmas time no less, and don't have one damn uniformed police officer trying to find out what is going on or help with crowd control... NO, that is under the umbrella of not me having to let it go, but the damn writers not taking the time to put it in. Stupid. Takes me right out of the show and it is such a damn easy thing to fix. Just have a cop waving his arms as if to say "over here" and suddenly the fake ass part of this show is now not as fake.

And all the jokes. And "Uh-Oh, the crowd is getting out of hand! Quick, let us four city officials leave the area, go back up to the 50th floor, change into our damn Larping costumes, come back to the street and THEN help with crowd control, because they are not listening to us right now. Yes, then, when we are dressed in fantasy green the crowd will listen. After all we are cops and fireman so that is exactly what we should do"
 ::) ::) ::) ::)

I know, I know, I take that shit too far, but damn it work some damn realism in the show. It's not that hard. The subjects are fantasy, the world around them does not have to be. At least not to being so ridiculous that that it makes the writing, acting and special effects on the CW Flash show look like an Oscar worthy performance.
 >:( >:(

This is 1960's Batman level stupid without trying to be.
 >:( >:(
I'm going to say it, Marvel movies are (for the most part) amazing, but Marvel TV is (again, for the most part) complete tripe.