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Post by: Perry on May 18, 2017, 04:01:37 PM
As bad as (most) of the Inhuman costumes looked, Mera looks fantastic!!!!

Title: Re: AQUAMAN?
Post by: Jeff on May 18, 2017, 04:31:39 PM
Sweet!  Looks amazing!   And the costumes not bad either.   ;)

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Post by: Perry on April 30, 2018, 05:17:05 AM
Just a thought ...

After the flop that was Justice League, this Aquaman movie already had the pressure of having the future of DC's cinema 'expanded' universe in its hand, being the next one to hit. But with Black Panther blowing the hell up and Infinity War being, IMHO, the best comic movie yet (even if it is only part one and I have yet to see Black Panther), Aquaman now has THAT to compete with. Marvel reviews. And I use the word compete because even though Marvel and DC are totally different and should be able to stand as their own entity, they will ALWAYS be compared to each other, especially in this movie world. I don't think of it as DC vs Marvel, but many do. Right or wrong, they do. I guess I am too ... for this bit at the very least

Another thing to think about is how well, or the opposite of that actually, "water movies" seem to do in the box office or at least to fans. I think the most successful, for me, would be The Abyss, but my brain can't think of too many more right now but my memory says ... or maybe it is just me ... but It just seems that most under water movies don't rise to the level of their above sea counterparts, unless there is a shark involved. I do so hope that changes with Aquaman, as much as I hope THIS Aquaman is not a DAMN SURFER WANNA BE  >:( >:( >:(  but man, back to the point, Aquaman has a ton of pressure on it. Not just water pressure.

DC still have Shazam coming, but ... is he going to be shown to be in the DC movie universe proper? I don't know. Maybe, so if he is they still have that in the chamber, though I would have to think that his sales will be hurt by movie goers if yet another DC movie goes bad with Aquaman. I and everyone here I am sure are going to see both, maybe not in the theaters on opening day of course *cough, cough*, but "we" are not everyone.

And yes, they always have Wonder Woman and they may just have to start over using her as the focal point IE: Iron Man if this one does poorly. Think about that. You have Batman, one of the most popular characters in the world and you may have to start over with a different character. A character deserving of it, don't get me wrong. She is one of the trilogy lest we forget, but come on ... she is no Batman. And maybe that is a good thing.



EDIT - And I just remembered WHEN Aquaman is hitting theaters. Is this just another example of why DC struggles? Opening a movie based on an ocean hero in freaking December? Really? Just think of all the little kids on the coasts wanting to go out and pretend to be the hero Aquaman in the snow. Right now, kids can run outside and pretend to be Dr. Strange (because most kids are like me, yeah?  :D) but with Aquaman, wouldn't have been better to play the movie in the summer? When kids can actually go to the beach and play like they are the king himself?

Yes, that is a miniscule aspect to think about, but yeah, it is the small stuff that add up.

Title: Re: AQUAMAN?
Post by: Jeff on April 30, 2018, 07:36:18 AM

Another thing to think about is how well, or the opposite of that actually, "water movies" seem to do in the box office or at least to fans. I think the most successful, for me, would be The Abyss, but my brain can't think of too many more right now but my memory says ... or maybe it is just me ... but It just seems that most under water movies don't rise to the level of their above sea counterparts....

Your forgetting all about The Little Mermaid!

Oh, I guess I just made your point.... ;D

Title: Re: AQUAMAN?
Post by: Perry on May 01, 2018, 03:00:15 AM

Title: Re: AQUAMAN?
Post by: Perry on July 22, 2018, 03:54:47 AM
Well, if the trailer is any indication, perhaps this will be the next DC movie that brings the people to the seats after all. Why? Because I have loved pretty much every single one of DC's trailers in the past and was stricken down by the end product, so maybe the reverse will happen here?

This. Does. NOT. Look. Good.

Don't get me wrong, looks very, very "cool" in parts, but structurally ... hmmmmm

Shouldn't have let Momoa narrate for one thing  ;) and hey, why do all DC characters have to cross their arms in front of them before firing their eye lasers? Didn't Supes (and Zod in a different movie) do the same thing? Maybe not, but ... yeah, I could have sworn they did.

Anyway, incase you haven't seen it yet -

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Post by: Jimmy T on July 22, 2018, 07:51:30 AM
I won't lie; the trailer felt disjointed by what it wanted to put out; 'hey, this movie is cool!!! come watch!!'

That said, I still have hope that the movie keeps traveling through all the correct paces in the route to a cool movie!

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Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2018, 08:47:51 AM
Trailer does look goid.  And Momoa will pack the ladies into the theater.

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Post by: jedicow on July 24, 2018, 05:41:48 PM
i know it's in spanish, but........ (

Title: Re: AQUAMAN?
Post by: Perry on July 24, 2018, 05:55:41 PM

Title: Re: AQUAMAN?
Post by: Jeff on July 25, 2018, 07:34:24 AM
i know it's in spanish, but........ (


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Post by: Mitch on August 06, 2018, 12:08:28 PM
Wow, that looks pretty cool.  I'm definitely in.

From the trailer, it looks like it has the same basic story beats as the DCAU movie JL: Throne of Atlantis from a few years ago.

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Post by: Jeff on November 05, 2018, 03:27:18 PM
Trailor number 2 is out..

Title: Re: AQUAMAN?
Post by: jedicow on December 16, 2018, 08:14:59 PM
my daughter and I went to see it last night with the Amazon Prime advance screening.

all I will say for now is this:

It's much better than an Aquaman movie has any business being.

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Post by: Perry on December 17, 2018, 11:03:55 AM
Can't wait for this ... to hit HBO
(Okay, or Redbox)

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Post by: Jimmy T on December 17, 2018, 08:13:59 PM
Seeing it Friday!


If it's Iron Man 1, or , or near to Wonder Woman, or better than the first 2 Thors, or...way better than Ant-Man, or as fun as Blade, I'm set!

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Post by: Jimmy T on December 21, 2018, 05:28:18 PM
I had a great time!

It was a really good movie! not even in the surprising kind of manner for me. I just found it to be really good entertaining, and nothing insulting either. I feel it's what a superhero movie should be. Doesn't take a selfie as seriously as Wonder woman needed to, but we didn't need to see that from Aquaman.

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Post by: Jeff on January 26, 2019, 07:37:32 PM
Just got back from seeing this.  It was all right.  A lot of fun but not epic.  The best part for me was listening to my daughterís absolute adornment for the movie.  When Arthur fist shows up with the classic costume you see in the trailer she turned to my wife and me all wide-eyed and giant smiles. ďI canít wait to see the rest of this movie!Ē She squealed.

Took me back to that first X-Men comic purchase I made from the spinner rack at the corner convenience store by my grandparents house. Part 2 of Days of Future past.  Iím sure I had that same expression.

Title: Re: AQUAMAN?
Post by: Perry on February 01, 2019, 10:20:14 AM
Oh man, I so wanted to like this, and I guess I did, kind of, a little.

It wasn't horrible but it wasn't great either. The entire time I am watching this I am thinking "well damn, they did it. They made a CW movie"

From the lame dialog (the scenes with Aquaman and his dad or his dad and his mom killed me) to the limited acting ability in almost every scene, it was like I was watching an underwater episode of SG-1. Heck, I feel they are both on the same level, really. Both star the same guy and both are worth the time if you want to waste a few hours, but they are never going to wow anyone with their acting or dialog.

I Mean even the humor feels weird here. I smile at times, but it isn't like a real smile or a laugh from a funny moment. It's like a "yeah, that is kind of funny" smile. Ya know what I mean? Too many "How is it I can breath underwater but you can still drink me under the table?" type jokes.
 ::) ...  :-\ ...  :)

It really is amazing how Marvel can keep making really good, high quality movies (with pure, honest, belly laugh moments) while DC keeps pushing out disappointing, high-dollar television shows they decide to show on the big screen.

Yeah, looks like DC still only has Wonder Woman to hang their hat on.

Crossing my fingers even tighter for Shazam, but at this point, there is little hope left. I'm tired of saying DC will get it right this time. So far I've only been right once, with Wonder Woman.

But hey, DC still has the future even if Shazam falls flat (like its current monthly comic!). Wonder Woman 2 is close and then, way in the future ...  if James Gunn can't get it done, it can't be done, so come ooooonnnn Suicude Squad attempt #2 !!!

Aquaman - 6 outta 10 cool water effects  :-\

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Post by: Jimmy T on February 03, 2019, 09:19:37 AM
Oh-h-h-h-h! You make me cry Perry.  :'(

 ;) :D

It's'all good!

I can recognize how it's not Macbeth, nor how it's as masterful or compelling as Winter Soldier, or individually engaging as Iron man (movie).

It's funny, just thinking right now, in comparing Iron Man to Aquaman. When IM came out, it was a relatively 'huge risk.' Well, a risk. Iron Man was a top grade B-character. Some even might have said, fallen to a C+ character (this is just hemming and hawing). Now, Aquaman, for most individuals, is a C character. I would severely argue against that, but again, more hemming and hawing.

What I am trying to drive at, is that IM (movie) took risks to be serious in its attention to character, interactions, plots, and fluid nature of people acting like people would when facing a situation-whether its looking death in the face (then building your own robot suit), questioning your basic life choices (of being a war profiteer), then doing something about your life (like wearing a big robot suit and punching your own weapons). Seems silly? Maybe, but not with the gravitas Favreau and RDJ and crew put into the film.

Why didn't Aquaman do exactly that? Well, perhaps it's DCEU being extremely gun shy now about the box office. Their DCEU movie division has gone through 4 PRESIDENTS since Man of Steel. Really tells you they know what they're doing, right? The man they decided to lead the way into their film glory (Zach Snyder) has been more and more removed from those decisions and directions with each movie that kept coming out.  Uh...winding way to get there, I would say Aquaman could be as risky as Iron Man, but I also think it comes down to differences of characters.

Tony Stark is a business man/engineer in a big robot suit. Aquaman is a bastard child of ATLANTIS and homo sapiens, and his world is filled with magic, and wonder, and ancient lore of kings and monsters and magic. Also, Aquaman came in with a big stigma of being lame, the butt of jokes, and well, stupid. That's a huge uphill battle to fight. James Wan and Momoa had to make him cool, dangerous, bad ass, relateable, understandable, and also make this pretend under water world engaging.

I would say they quite succeeded.

And no, the movie is not brilliant. Some lines and implanted humor were as cheeky in the 80s as they are now, being a reused easy joke. But it was beautiful to see, it was done with the intention of injecting as much heart and connection to the character, the man, Arthur Curry, as could be.

So, I guess, in my opinion, I just disagree with you Perry. :)
And that's okay.

But yeah, Wonder Woman is still far and away #1.

CAN'T WAIT FOR SHAZAM MY BIRTHDAY WEEKEND!!! The last time I had a comic movie my bday weekend was HELLBOY!! (or was it Hellboy 2? lol can't remember!!)

Title: Re: AQUAMAN?
Post by: Perry on February 03, 2019, 11:47:16 AM
Jimbo, I totally get where you are coming from, my man. And hey, it is not like I hated the movie Aquaman, because I didn't, and it may be that my anger only comes from how badly I really wanted to like it, how badly I really wanted it to ... not only be a good movie, but also do justice to the Aquaman character. And while I think it did neither of those overly well, sadly, at least it was better at being Aquaman that what we were given in Justice League

And I think you nailed it as far as DC being nervous or gun shy, because the dialog tried so hard to fall in the safe zone, that it came out tired. It was flat. There was little to no punch in any conversation. Each discussion felt either overly gooey like watching 5 minutes of Riverdale or it went to the over-acting side like Rami's Green Goblin (Speaking of which, Willem Dafoe as Vulko? Ugh, horrible casting decision there).

I think as a movie it may typically work better overall with the younger crowd, those true DC fans or those just there to have a good time as it is a "fun little romp under the sea" that hits us with some amazing visuals AND ideas, but I guess I just wanted a different movie. I was scared pretty early by Arthur's origin scene. There was no chemistry whatsoever between these two characters that were suppose to feel so much love for each other. I didn't believe it for a second. And the Manta intro, ugh, that was not much better as this villain of the seas had as much acting and dialog depth as a still puddle.
"I wont tell you how to (I forgot) and you don't tell me how to pirate" *stab*stab*
And Amber Heard while looking like a great Mera was ... well ... she looked like a great Mera, but when she
fought off the tidal wave to let Arthur reach his dad's truck, then seconds later struggles to pull a lung full of water out of a drowning mans body ... ?
It is scenes like those that sink a movie for me.

Again, it wasn't a horrible experience, honestly, I did give it a "six"  :) and as sad as you are to hear me talk this way about this movie, believe you me, it upsets me more. I truly wanted this to be incredible. I almost went to the theater for this one because I was hoping it would be a good one  :D, but it just wasn't that good. It was fun, but little more than that.

But hey, I am glad you dug it. You being the bigger Aquaman fan and enjoying the movie is is a great thing.
And I did enjoy it overall, but not as much as I had hoped.
(Still better than Justice League  :) ... speaking of which ... do we have a DC movie ranking list like we do with Marvel?)

EDIT - Another thing I would have liked to have seen in the movie ...
The voices underwater being a tad different than that of those on land. I am not sure how that would work or what I wanted, but I think they should have had some ... SOME slight difference in underwater speaking and surface world vocals. That would have been a nice little addition had they found a way to do it.

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Post by: Jimmy T on February 03, 2019, 01:33:24 PM
See, I thought they did the voices kind of clever; they did have a weird underwater echo quality, quite strongly, in the beginning of the movie. As the movie advanced, they began to tone it down each conversation, until it was simply gone. I thought it was a really cool way to instill that the voices sound different while also being able to jettison its use later!

But yes, it was cheesy. But, Superman the Movie has plenty of cheese, and I'll watch that over sooo many other movies in many decisions.

Oh, if I didn't say it before, Black Manta was awful!  8)  He was a direct to screen from page 70s version of himself.