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Title: Hulk Thread
Post by: Wringer on February 14, 2010, 08:08:29 PM
Anyone reading fall of the hulks.  not a fan of loeb at all but Pak is a great writer and what he did with Hulk in Planet Hulk and is now doing with Banner has been great.

Issue 606 Banner takes on Doom with surprising results...if you haven't been keeping up, do a yourself a favor and pick it up...everyone seems to forget how smart Banner really is and Pak is exploring that aspect and it's a lot of fun.

Enjoy


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Ed209 on February 15, 2010, 11:30:44 PM
I'm following.  Although my pull list is down to 6 titles, I still pick up Incredible Hulk, as he has always been a fav of mine, especially when written as well as Pak has been writing him.  I know that some people on the boards here named Perry  ;) think that there's nothing interesting that they can do with Hulk anymore, but I say nay nay, there is.  I'm enjoying it quite a bit. 


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Jimmy T on February 18, 2010, 09:02:51 PM
Pak's Hulk is great. Love to read about Banner. And how Banner is manipulating his/Hulk's son Skaar. We've all figured out that the young grey is actually the real child, and that the green mammoth is actually the controlled rage filled figure that is the whole focus for his hate of his father, right?

However, Banner's a bit too smart....as he is a physicist specializing in gamma radiation, the fact he does so much tech building is a bit....much.

It's like asking a veterinarian to do open heart surgery on a human. It's a matter of close, but really NO cigar in either case.

But I'll look past it.

To hell with Loeb's work on Hulk.


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Wringer on February 18, 2010, 11:58:02 PM
spoiler












I thought it was amazing how easily he took Doom out...a bit of fisticuffs with a robot and boom, Doom is throughly defeated and not in a..."you win for now but i'll be back" kind of way.  this defeat will certainly effect Doom for a long time to come when he recovers.  Great move.

As for the tech side...i do believe he created not only the gamma technology for the bomb but the delivery system as well.  In the old days he was always inventing some kind of device to hold the hulk in check...and when he could not control his changes he created a device that would turn him into the hulk as needed...certainly no slouch in the tech dept.

Either way it is good stuff...now if loeb would just disappear All would be fine...I'd really like to see Pak and PAD be the writing team for these books.  I think they would work well together as they both have a firm grip on the characters of hulk and bruce and do far more with them than just "i must stop the hulk from hurting anyone" and "hulk smash"



Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Jeff on February 19, 2010, 01:09:36 PM
Did they ever reveal the true identity of the red hulk?


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Wringer on February 19, 2010, 06:27:25 PM
not yet...really dont care anymore.  I think it's a Talbot (Glen or Brother) but really Loeb is so bad I have very little interest in RED...but Green with Pak has been great.


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: CAPTAIN UNIVERSE on April 10, 2010, 12:31:09 PM

can someone tell me if the savage she-hulk will be ongoing? i picked up #1 yesterday says fall of hulks under her name with i think its son of hulk on the cover. i haven't followed her since like 2005. and i saw a nice cover and figured the art work was the same. but she looks really good. the art work is really cool.so wasn't sure if its a mini or ongoing. i asked the guys at the store but they're not sure.


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Jeff on April 10, 2010, 12:48:35 PM
It's a 3 issue mini ending in May.  You can read about it on our preview pages: HERE (http://www.herorealm.com/previews/MarvelPreviews/05_May_2010/may_2010_pre_mvlheroes.html)


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Wringer on May 18, 2010, 03:10:06 PM
So the great "mystery" has been revealed in Hulk #23.  We now know who the RED Hulk and She-hulk are.  Anyone read this crap.  completely predictable and boring and really just stupid.  For every good thing Pak does, Loeb just piles on the sh!t.

I know Pak is involved in directing where this is going but this is just stupid and uninspired.  i wont spoil for those who have not read it yet but yeesh.

Still loving Increadible as it almost seems like a different story and Bruce gets Doom again in another classic moment.  Paks Banner is excellent.  It amazing that an interconnected story-line can be so vastly different in quality depending on the writer.


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Jimmy T on May 18, 2010, 03:41:54 PM
What makes Hulk great is that he is nearly a singular entity (yeah, there was She-Hulk, but she didn't get the madder/stronger angle).

This stuff is just all garbage. Pak hits some great moments, but the ease of making Hulks, and the lame reveals of the the 2 Reds is lame and jarring. Make it all go away!


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Rich on May 18, 2010, 05:07:27 PM
Okay, spoil me--I'm not gonna read this trash, but who is the Red Hulk?


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Wringer on May 18, 2010, 05:36:34 PM
Just sent you an email Rich to give others time to read and post thier disgust.


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Jeff on May 18, 2010, 06:08:36 PM
Spoil me too.  I'm curious but I'm not going to buy it.



Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Rich on May 19, 2010, 02:26:29 PM
Thanks Wringer....and are you effin kidding me?  Sigh.  I hope all this hulked out everything gets over with soon.  They've really ruined this title.  Incredible Hulk used to be a premier title, and now it's a joke.


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Wringer on May 19, 2010, 03:21:18 PM
Thanks Wringer....and are you effin kidding me?  Sigh.  I hope all this hulked out everything gets over with soon.  They've really ruined this title.  Incredible Hulk used to be a premier title, and now it's a joke.

I have to disagree...Hulk is a joke as written by Loeb.  It is his title that deals with all things Red.  Incredible is like a different book altogether and has been filled with great character pieces and has been a shinning star with Pak at the helm.  Even through all this junk, Incredible has remained a high quality product that is still very readable and enjoyable.  It is a testiment to Pak that his title has kept its focus on the Banner team and has had very little involvemnt of all things Red, considering this is a crossover that is a very tough trick (though Pak is involved with the orverall direction so is not blameless in these events).

personally i have not read an issue of Hulk since he punched out the Watcher in issue 5 I think (just looked at the last page of the current issue for the reveal).  I have continued reading Incredible the whole time, i can easily follow the story w/o having to read Loeb's Hulk and it is a solid title.

Please do not confuse the two as the atre vastly different.


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Jeff on May 19, 2010, 03:31:03 PM
Thanks here too Wringer.  Definately made my eye's roll.   ::)



Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Rich on May 19, 2010, 08:02:24 PM
I guess I meant that the character was a premier character, and it's just been sullied with subpar writing since PAD left.  I stand by that--no one's come close.  Not Bruce Jones, not Greg Pak...no one.  Sigh.  I wish they would have let him finish what he started.  Man, that was a great run that could have been just...epic.  Epic.

Ah, well.


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: G:The Last Man on May 19, 2010, 08:25:40 PM
I guess I meant that the character was a premier character, and it's just been sullied with subpar writing since PAD left.  I stand by that--no one's come close.  Not Bruce Jones, not Greg Pak...no one.  Sigh.  I wish they would have let him finish what he started.  Man, that was a great run that could have been just...epic.  Epic.

Ah, well.

That's interesting.  Was there some bad blood between PAD and Marvel editorial that they removed him from the title, or did he leave because of a difference in opinion?

I really used to like reading Incredible Hulk too.....but somewhere between calling the book Incredible Hercules and the World War Hulk mini....they just lost me.   


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Wringer on May 19, 2010, 11:25:16 PM
PAD and Marvel had a difference of opinions.  PAD did the one thing no one had ever done with the Hulk...make him intersting.  He made the character relevent and had sales through the roof.  Marvel decided they wanted the Hulk to be part of the Onslaught crossover and wanted PAD to write...so he did until he found out that after the event the hulk would no longer be tied to Bruce Banner and would return to his simple minded Hulk Smash personality.  PAD had no interest in writing "that" hulk and was asked to leave the book.

I agree that PAD is by far the best writer th Character ever had.  I enjoyed Paul Jenkins run that used part of PAD stuff by introducing the revolving door personality, hated the over long/boring Bruce jones run that went no where, and have really liked what Pak did with Planet Hulk up to WWH. His recent exploration of Banner has been great (loved his take down of Doom...twice now:) ).  But as stated PAD is king of this character (and almost every character he touches) and would love to see him come back to the title to enhance what he did before...I'd love to see a Hulk forever title with him picking up right before Onslaught so he could finish his tale.  Or just kick Loeb completely out of the MU (he can have the Ulimate U if he wants) and have PAD work with Pak...keep the current art team and I would be one happy Hulk fan.


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Rich on May 20, 2010, 04:20:46 AM
Hulk Forever would effin' rock! I've thought that they should give PAD the reins again in that format since they let Claremont do the same thing...


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Wringer on May 20, 2010, 10:08:20 PM
agreed...i also want a spider-man forever book with Stern, Defalco, DeMatteis and Michelinie...throw PAD in too :)


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Wringer on May 26, 2010, 04:41:49 PM
Spoiler on the Identity of the Red Hulks...if any cares ;)
























Red Hulk is General Thunderbolt ross
Red She-hulk is his daughter and banners wife, Betty.

ugh.


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: G:The Last Man on May 26, 2010, 04:44:27 PM
lol....is this the lowest point in Hulk history, or can you recall some other major hulk letdowns?


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Wringer on May 26, 2010, 11:41:54 PM
Bruce Jones' run...great art but no substance. 

This is pretty bad, however I still stand by Incredible, it's the adjectiveless book that is doing the damage.


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Jimmy T on May 27, 2010, 12:49:10 PM
Incredible does hold up to be a good book.

But multi-Hulks everywhere just ends up being silly and pointless.


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: troyfreund on May 22, 2011, 02:46:38 AM
Man, I just read the first three volumes of Red Hulk...maybe it's because I'm not 8 years old, but that title blew. Maybe I didn't get it, but by the 3rd volume, I think I soaked up enough to know it was tripe. Moon Knight and Sentry talking about therapists was good though. That's the only interesting scripting I can recall from just having read three trades...geesh.
Sure didn't miss anything there,
Troy


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Sith_Chimera on May 26, 2011, 04:49:51 AM
I would love a reset on the current Hulk continuity.

Where's Joe Q when I need him? Can we get the "One More Day" treatment on this book?

Anyone?..... Anyone? Bueller?


Mephisto?  :P


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Jeff on May 26, 2011, 01:25:55 PM
I would love a reset on the current Hulk continuity.

Where's Joe Q when I need him? Can we get the "One More Day" treatment on this book?

Anyone?..... Anyone? Bueller?


Mephisto?  :P

Man you so right on that Sith.  Where is Mephisot when we actually need him?


Title: Re: Hulk Thread
Post by: Wringer on May 26, 2011, 02:51:01 PM
you might get your wish...it seems that Incredible is coming to an end within the next few months.  propbably to be rebooted by the end of the yr.  I was thinking they would keep the #ing and change the title back to Tales to Astonish similar to Journey into Mystery.

While I am warming to the idea of Ross-Hulk I have no real desire to follow him on a monthly basis, no matter how well Parker might be writing him.

looks like I'll have an opening in my pull..maybe 2 as I'm not feeling the new Thor title either.