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Title: RE-READ...
Post by: troyfreund on May 19, 2009, 11:43:30 AM
Just a thread for sharing those titles, regardless of publisher, that you want to remind people to go back and re-read, as they're just keen as heck...


-I'm re-reading the Inhumans limited-series by Paul Jenkins and Jae Lee.  Beautifully moody artwork, skillful characterization and plotting by the writer--really, an exceptional series.  Love the issue that focuses on Triton--neat story behind a beautiful cover.  I know when I first encountered Jae Lee's artwork (HellShock, maybe? or a few issues of X-Factor?) that it didn't do much for me, but since this series, I've really grown to dig it.    Paul Jenkins too--not a marquee writer, but the dude knows how to write--anyone read his Night Raven:  House of Cards for Marvel UK?  Real nice.

anyway, Inhumans was great, a really grand story and Black Bolt will always be a classic hero design.  Schweeet!


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: vicorintian on May 25, 2009, 06:29:03 PM
mmmm Re-reads?
i just recently re-read all the issues i have of Priestīs Black Panther. i also wanna re-read Davidīs Captain Marvel, Robinsonīs Starman and Brian K. Vaughanīs Mystique!

also iīm reading it for the first time, but if you read it already, go check  the Walt Simonson Thor Series. Excellent!


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: Brindrod on June 03, 2009, 04:42:30 AM

also iīm reading it for the first time, but if you read it already, go check  the Walt Simonson Thor Series. Excellent!

I'll be making it a follow up feature to my Cosmic Odyssey piece but since you mentioned Simonson's Thor, I figued I would bring this up as a suggestion;

Orion.

Best Simonson work ever. Superior to what he did on Thor. Serious. Details to follow...


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: troyfreund on June 16, 2009, 12:30:02 AM
John Byrne's "Alpha Flight" 1-14
Just finished re-reading these today.  Not the best superhero stuff every, but really, pretty darn good and challenging to the standards of super-team books.  I really liked the whole 2-issue limited-cast stories, with the whole team getting together only once a year or so.  I also liked what a good job Byrne did at suggesting the vastness of Canada.  Try to imagine what the X-men would have been like if Cyclops and Emma lived in San Fran, Beast in Portland, Angel in Dallas, Wolverine in Detroit and Nightcrawler in Tampa.  I can kinda see why the series never did all that well, but I really like what Byrne did here.  Now, onto 15-28!  I got these all at a local used book-store, bagged and boarded, for around  $.99-1.25 each. :)


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: troyfreund on June 18, 2009, 02:01:56 PM
Wildstorm's "The Establishment", issues 1-4
Beautiful artwork from the talented Charlie Adlard, interesting characterization  from Ian Edginton and a neat tilt at the Britain of the Wildstorm universe.  Seems everybody was doing their version of The Authority, and Wildstorm had two it seems--The Monarchy and The Establishment.  I read both and enjoyed The Establishment much more.  Anywho, like the Byrne "Alpha Flight", I enjoyed these issues, as I did get a good sense of a different environment, other than a generic metropolis.  This was England, it was strange and it was good.  Shame the series only lasted 13 issues.


Title: Re: RE-READ... Jack of Fables TPB 1+3
Post by: troyfreund on August 05, 2009, 01:19:19 PM
Jack of Fables:  TPB 1 +3
Man, Fables has always been a good read, but now I just got done reading two Jack of Fables TPB (from my local library) and those Fables-folks sure know what they're doing.  I know this really isn't a re-read, but I thought it could fit in here...


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: Herr Mike on August 07, 2009, 05:30:05 PM
Funny, I've been re-reading the hell out some comics lately -

Spider-Man: Reign - Man, this is a great story, maybe my favorite Spider-Man story of all time. The "It's Dark Knight!" criticisms seem even more off the mark after reading it again.

MK Spider-Man by Millar - Pretty good stuff. It's funny how few Spider-Man stories I'd recommend to new readers. This is one of them.

Spider-Man 30-36 - JMS' first arc, very good, I remember being excited at the time and it was justified. I still don't care for the totem angle, but I really like Ezekiel and Morlun as characters.

Iron Man (4th series) - I read 1-28. Great series, really. I thought so at the time but I was even more impressed reading it again. Extremis is very good, shame Ellis left after that. The Knaufs kept the momentum up, but "Execute Program" was hampered by some pretty sub-par art. The Civil War issues were good, and the WWH issues better than I remember. The Mandarin story was classic, De La Torre just knocked it out of the park. Brilliant work by all.

House of M - As far as events go, this worked far better than most. Bendis does a nice job juggling the characters, and the finale doesn't disappoint. I still think showing mutants as the next step in evolution is flat out stupid (especially Beast's assertion that somehow ALL mutants are smarter than humans...wtf?) but I could overlook it. "No more mutants" was a great idea, if they dropped the ball following it up. (They kill off all those lame mutants to streamline the X-universe and then add scores of new, even lamer X-Men? They lost me with that move.) Anyway, get off topic there. Good story, great art.

Civil War - My main complaint is that it just didn't last long enough. So many events are drug out far too long, going 12 issues when 6 would be fine, but there was so much potential for more with Civil War. But, it's another winner of an event, with magnificent art and a story that keeps the pages turning.


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: Rich on August 07, 2009, 09:07:32 PM
This weekend, while sitting at the cabin and sipping a tasty beverage, I'll be re-reading Watchmen.  I haven't read it in 10 years, but the movie got me excited about it again.  I'm all over this one!

Other than that, not much re-reading going on...I have been meaning to re-read PAD's Hulk series.  Just to remind myself what can be done with the character with a GOOD writer...


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: Neil Kapit on August 12, 2009, 05:12:50 AM
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Iron Man (4th series) - I read 1-28. Great series, really. I thought so at the time but I was even more impressed reading it again. Extremis is very good, shame Ellis left after that. The Knaufs kept the momentum up, but "Execute Program" was hampered by some pretty sub-par art. The Civil War issues were good, and the WWH issues better than I remember. The Mandarin story was classic, De La Torre just knocked it out of the park. Brilliant work by all.

I strongly agree, and think that the Knaufs deserve quite a bit of credit for elevating Iron Man to A-List status. The movie's obviously the main reason why the character's risen in popularity, and Ellis and Granov's arc is one of the best standalone Iron Man stories, but the father and son writing team did a lot of work cementing the character's reputation as one of Marvel's best. Especially during Civil War, when almost every other writer seemed content to leave Tony as a modernized robber baron for their heroes to beat up.

My only real criticism is that they way overpowered the character, to the point where nothing short of Galactus could pose a threat. Already Tony Stark is a super-genius with incredibly tricked-out robot armor, but as of Execute Program, he also had technopathic powers like that annoying kid from Heroes, tremendously enhanced reflexes and thought speed, access to an organized network of satellite-mounted laser cannons ( though this was in Pak's World War Hulk, not the Knaufs' stories ), and a healing factor. The writers balanced it out by having Tony become paranoid and delusional trying to adapt to his new senses, but that meant Tony was only vulnerable as long as he was hallucinating.

If they'd just kept Extremis as an enhanced interface for the armor, it'd have been great, but the excess got to the point where the current Iron Man team is now going in the opposite direction ( i.e. a mentally impaired Tony in a downgraded armor, which also serves as his penance for his Civil War actions ).


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: troyfreund on November 09, 2009, 11:29:59 PM
Bendis and Gaydos' first volume of "Alias".  Dang, that's some great writing--the interrogation-room scene was just great.  Jessica Jones makes me feel funky inside. :)

Peter David's first volume of "Fallen Angel".  Great writing, art, characterization, locale....this book had it all.  Why the heck didn't it sell better?  Haven't touched the series since it switched publishers.  The painted art look just scared me off.


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: G:The Last Man on November 16, 2009, 06:29:18 PM
Re-reading Robinson/Harris' Starman in Omnibus form.......Still an excellent read after all these years.....


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: troyfreund on December 21, 2009, 10:44:37 PM
just got done re-reading "100 Bullets"--what an opus!  Azzarello and Risso really made something beautiful with this title.  It was real fun re-reading this and seeing how Risso's artwork changed over the course of 100 issues.  I think Lono just kept getting more and more massive.  Also, Lono almost seemed comedic with the way he was double-crossed multiple times--by Graves (with the suitcase of $ in Miami), by Shepherd (with the marked bills leading to arrest and incarceration), any others I missed?  Again, greeaaat book, if you like writing you really have to pay attention to and artwork that doesn't just lay it all out for you.


Title: Re: RE-READ...: Secret Invasion issues, Leonard Nimoy's "Primortals"
Post by: troyfreund on January 11, 2010, 03:40:04 PM
Just re-read a few of the Secret Invasion lead-up issues and....I'm reminded of how disappointing the outcome of Secret Invasion was.  All these issues, I mean TONS of issues, about how crafty the Skrulls were and then it all ended with Osborn and one shot and "hello, Dark Reign."  The whole Skrull stuff just seemed useless.  Anybody else feel this way?  Seems like it was a whole heck of a lot of build-up and no real pay-off, at least not as expected.

Also just got some "Primortals" in a Half-Price Books grab-bag.  A surprisingly neat take on the arrival of extra-terrestrials on Earth.  Did anyone else read this?  Is it worth tracking down the other back-issues? 


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: Perry on January 11, 2010, 03:50:12 PM
I was left feeling 'nothing' after the Skrull invasion, and that is a bad thing. I wanted to feel anger. I wanted to feel joy. I wanted to feel .. anything. I felt nothing.

Another case of the idea and the result being better than the event.

I mean, I really like where everything in the MU has gone (and the results of each event) since M-Day, but have enjoyed none of the events that got us there.



Title: Re: RE-READ...: Secret Invasion issues, Leonard Nimoy's "Primortals"
Post by: G:The Last Man on January 11, 2010, 05:48:35 PM
Just re-read a few of the Secret Invasion lead-up issues and....I'm reminded of how disappointing the outcome of Secret Invasion was.  All these issues, I mean TONS of issues, about how crafty the Skrulls were and then it all ended with Osborn and one shot and "hello, Dark Reign."  The whole Skrull stuff just seemed useless.  Anybody else feel this way?  Seems like it was a whole heck of a lot of build-up and no real pay-off, at least not as expected.

Also just got some "Primortals" in a Half-Price Books grab-bag.  A surprisingly neat take on the arrival of extra-terrestrials on Earth.  Did anyone else read this?  Is it worth tracking down the other back-issues? 

So it goes with a lot mega-events these days.  Good build-up that fizzles out at the finish.  More often than not lately, I'm glad that it's over so that we can get on with the real storytelling.  Then I'm disappointed again when a few months later the seeds for the next crossover is mentioned somehow in a story.

I vaguely remember the 1st issue of Primortals....was that the book that was conceived by Leonard Nimoy?  I don't recall it lasting very long....I'm sure you can hunt down the remaining issues in a quarter bin.


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: troyfreund on April 02, 2010, 01:09:49 AM
RE-READ Spawn 2-5.  Wow, I really hope I saw how crappy a writer McFarlane was when I bought these...I can hardly read them.  Could any writer use so many words to say so little?  I can't think of a comicbook I skim so thoughtlessly as these early Spawn issues.  Wow, the heady days of early Image....

RE-ReAD The Atheist 2-4.  Still a great book.  Really a unique idea and a great, kinda creepy story.  Good execution.


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: troyfreund on June 11, 2010, 01:49:58 AM
RE-READ:  ALL the Alan Moore "Swamp Thing" trades.  Work that really holds up.  Great then (though I wasn't reading it when it first came out) and great now.

RE-READ:  The three volumes of Josh Dysart's "Swamp Thing" trades.  Not as good as Moore, a definitely different "feel" to it, but not bad.  Enjoyed some of the artwork, but not so much Swampy's "bulky" look.


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: erik on June 13, 2010, 05:11:02 AM
I recently moved into my first apartment (yay!) and now have more space and easier access to my comic collection. So I've been doing quite a bit of re-reading.

I read

Iron Man 70 - 71
Vegas Bleeds Neon
It was a three-issue fill in by other artists. A good little story. It involved Tony going to Los Vegas and uncovering an alien conspiracy. Howard Hughes (part of the inspiration for Tony) was refrenced quite a bit in the story.

Iron Man 86 - 89
Iron Man Disassembled
This was Iron Man's personal crisis around the time the Avengers where blown up by Bendis. It featured great art by Tony Harris, but a horrible story by the writer. It was good for awhile, but it quickly became apparent that he didn't know everything about the Disassembled event, and this was making continuity plot holes as he went. Then, to add insult to injury, he kills off Tony's girl friend Rumiko for no reason at all.
Plus - PLUS - To really make this story suck, Tony decides to try go back in the closet, saying he's giving up being Iron Man, even though there will still be an Iron Man - and not even the stupidest of people would actually buy that load of garbage. Luckily Civil War took place a few months later - so that cleared up that mess.
Why re-read this story, then? I wanted to give it another try. I'm rare to really hate a story, and thought I might have been wrong before. Plus, Tony Harris' art is awesome!

Secrets Wars TPB
I up and just decided to re-read this series. It was pretty good, and flows well - and you get to see all the various heroes during different points of their careers.

Crisis on Multiple Earths
If I read Marvel's big cross-over epic, why not DC's again? A very long and dense read, but worth it. I don't think a single DCU character was over looked, somewhere in the background, of that series.

Sandman
I finally had finished the Sandman series, and was so geared up about it I went ahead and re-read the first two TPBs. (You forget how things started after so long) Such an incredible series, from top to bottom.

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Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: troyfreund on June 16, 2010, 02:32:50 PM
RE-READ:  The Goon, Vol 2-3.  Man, haven't looked into what Powell's been up to lately, but this was such great fun--particularly the Hellboy cross-over!  :)


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: Perry on June 16, 2010, 10:19:57 PM
The GOON got a lot better for me at about vol 3.

Good stuff.


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: Mitch on June 19, 2010, 01:14:39 AM
Captain America: Winter Soldier


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: troyfreund on July 09, 2010, 09:48:42 PM
KANE by Paul Grist.  What a master story-teller.  Was never a huge crime/cops+robbers fan, but this guy did some great work.  Just finished the first volume and am on the second now.  Lovely stuff, really.


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: troyfreund on July 21, 2010, 01:41:50 PM
Most of the Azzarello/Frusin "Hellblazer" issues. 
Man, Azzarello's writing sure takes some getting used to, but he sure spun some great tales.  He took Constantine in some pretty wrong, nasty and pervy, scary directions.  Great issues and I really loved Frusin's artwork (I've even got one page of original artwork from #177-a Carey-written issue)
Also, in the final arc, "Ashes and Dust", I never noticed till now all the Batman references!  Kinda funny. :)


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: troyfreund on July 27, 2010, 12:59:36 PM
Now re-reading a lot of the Ennis/Dillon "Hellblazer" issues.  That was my first real introduction to these creators and man, did they kick ass on this title.  Though I really enjoyed Frusin's Constantine, it's Dillon's Constantine who impressed me first.


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: troyfreund on November 29, 2010, 02:48:03 PM
Have been re-reading all summer, but forgetting to post about it...
-just re-read the first 4 issues of the Millar/Hitch "Fantastic Four" run...and was disappointed all over again.  Gah, did he really have any idea what these characters "sound" like?  Hitch's work just saves these issues from the "Take to Half-Price Books Box".


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: Jimmy T on December 02, 2010, 06:39:42 AM
See, I was rereading Millar's FF as well....and while I do agree with the voices being, well, awful in the beginning, I absolutely LOVED the amazement Millar created as the whole she-bang came to a brilliant, "bring it all back home" conclusion. Truly loved it.

And Hickman's work is better.


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: Jeff on December 02, 2010, 01:26:47 PM
See, I was rereading Millar's FF as well....and while I do agree with the voices being, well, awful in the beginning, I absolutely LOVED the amazement Millar created as the whole she-bang came to a brilliant, "bring it all back home" conclusion. Truly loved it.

And Hickman's work is better.

I didn't get the Millar run so I can't comment on it but I will second that Hickman's FF is, well, FANTASTIC!



Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: troyfreund on December 02, 2010, 10:43:25 PM

See, I was rereading Millar's FF as well....and while I do agree with the voices being, well, awful in the beginning, I absolutely LOVED the amazement Millar created as the whole she-bang came to a brilliant, "bring it all back home" conclusion. Truly loved it.

And Hickman's work is better.

OK, I've finished the run, and after some distance, it does "taste" better, but not great. Seemed like lots of great ideas, but not many decently developed.  I know Millar only signed on for 12 issues, but maybe he shoulda backed off a bit then and done a few ideas GREAT instead of just throwing a whole bunch at the fan and hoping something sticks.
I only read the first issue of Hickman and while he "sounded" better, the artist's rendition of Reed was just painful to to look at!  I'm hoping to get a trade or two to read from my library!


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: Jimmy T on December 06, 2010, 05:00:19 AM
The thing that really worked for me is that the FF felt, well, just amazing to read. But yeah, Millar's work really can hit all over the place. He's like a 4 year old throwing paper confetti at a fan-sometimes it just works out right, and sometimes it's just one big blast before it all falls in a big heap.

Actually, FF has been quietly one of my favorite and stalwart books for years now. I REALLY enjoyed Mcduffie's stuff, Millar brought a huge scale to it, and Hickman is working something that looks to stand the test of time-if the center holds.

Luckily Troy, Dale Eaglesham has left the book to take over Hulk. While nothing wrong with Dale's work, he loves his broad shouldered heroes (his words, not mine), and it just doesn't make a good looking book. I believe....shoot...Scot Eaton or Mike Epting, or Mike Perkins has taken over currently, and it's a good look so far. A little darker, ala his (whoever he is!) Captain America's work, which adds a different layer to the FF, but I'm good with it for now.


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: Mitch on December 22, 2010, 07:40:21 PM
Recently re-read the entire Ultimate Spider-Man run.  Anyone have any opinions on the continuation (I think it's called Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man or something like that)?


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: Jeff on December 23, 2010, 02:02:23 AM
Recently re-read the entire Ultimate Spider-Man run.  Anyone have any opinions on the continuation (I think it's called Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man or something like that)?

I haven't picked it up but I hear Bagley's coming back.


Title: Re: RE-READ...
Post by: Perry on December 23, 2010, 08:46:12 PM
Recently re-read the entire Ultimate Spider-Man run.  Anyone have any opinions on the continuation (I think it's called Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man or something like that)?

Stopped reading during the tidal wave stuff, and the new artist never got me back on the book. I bought the first issue and just couldn't enjoy it as the art was ... just not a right fit. Even though I think Bendis was going after the same "feel" with the art, it wasn't there. It wasn't bad and it was not as ill fitting as say ... Hembeck doing a Punisher MAX ... hahaha ... but it just felt more like a MARVEL ADVENTURES book.. Not that that is a bad thing, just not what I want in my Ultimate Spidey.