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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2017, 07:26:34 AM »

So I read or re-read The Return of Bruce Wayne #1 last night, trying to get all up on that knowledge to understand Metal more thoroughly, and I think (and Snyder could have said as much in an interview somewhere, I don't know) that this is where Snyder got the idea for
the 3 Jokers. There is a caveman/early man in this issue ... along side Vandal Savage(?) ... that the group calls Joker. Wonder if that is where Snyder got the idea as it is obvious reading Metal that he is all over Morrison's jock strap  Grin


There is a small part of my brain that thinks Plastic Man may be in this mini ... somehow ... as something perhaps? Could be wrong of course.

Onto issue #2 ... at some time or another.
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2017, 09:17:21 AM »

Oh, you mean Plasti may be in the 'Return' mini?

I wouldn't be surprised if he was actually the Joker/Trickster figurehead of days long past. OR, at least represent it. You need a shining force of light to banish the gloomy darkness.
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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2017, 05:07:15 AM »

Well I have now read issues 1-4 and so far issue #1 is the only one really talking about Barbatos or, from what I see, anything related to Metal to any degree. I did start issue #5 and it seems like it may have more here, so fingers crossed
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2017, 09:58:24 AM »

Metal #3

Snyder is not Morrison. He is not crafting a tale that grows between issues and makes each instance of seeing the issue we read a spectacular moment.

It's so...blasted over the place. Instead of crafting a dart to throw at a bullseye, Snyder loads up both barrels of a shotgun with buckshot and blasts the entire dartboard.

I don't hate this...but I'm really disappointed with this so far.

I also HATE the dark multiverse. Let's study this; what's the purpose shown of the 'dark' realms? It's shown to be a place of depravity, hate, fear, all spawned from our universe. Ie, that means our universe is 'good' or light.

Maybe I'm looking too hard into it, but this stands on the principles that there is objective truths-good exists, and evil exists. Good is better, I would presume, from what is being shown here. Only through fear and hate does the dark grow. So, that means the dark needs be destroyed. ((or is this balanced with the good only exists with bad to balance?))

And I can look at all this without bringing in the benevolent creator argument yet.

On the whole, I think the dark multiverse is a dumb idea.

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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2017, 06:15:30 AM »

While not bad enough to send to the junk yard, I do see a lot of rust in this Metal event. Yes I went for the easy shot
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It just seems like an Elseworlds title and I think that is the only thing I am truly enjoying.

Sadly, I think it is going to permeate the DCU for years, instead of just being ... a thing that was here, good and enjoyable while it lasted.
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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2017, 04:45:45 PM »

Metal #4

I wrote a long emotional speech here but I just deleted it. I think instead of a four or five paragraph diatribe, I can sum up all my feelings and thoughts so much more succinct by this and this alone -

Metal issue #4 ... Ugh.
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« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2018, 08:32:39 PM »

I'm sick of waiting for this to get really good. Like, those 2 Forge and Anvil issues had me so intrigued! Sure, you were messing around with old history, giving it a bit of the Johns-ian tweak of the cheek and eye wink to make it fun, like it all mattered, and you built some great layered 'what's happening now?!' suspense and new theater like Morrison, but Snyder...WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU GOING WITH ALL THIS?!

I think I'm convincing myself that I'll like it as it goes along and goes all the way to the end. But, I'm sorry
Batmanium
just about made me do a spit take due to how damned stupid that sounded.

I love the importance of Hawkman, and history, and nth metal, and making 'meta' come from metal, but I'm having a hard time believing in the writing of the story.
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« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2018, 12:17:15 AM »

 Angry

Issue #5






Sums it all up perfectly. One more issue. Just one more issue ...
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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2018, 04:20:23 PM »

I hate an event book that crucially needs the tie ins to fill in the gaps and explain things.

(Secret Empire you are FAR more guilty of this!!)

But by issue 5, I had just about started to feel the enthusiasm again for the meaning of it all. Why?

As Perry said, one more issue. One more issue.

This issue was the rising action of story design; it reaches the zenith of climax, and will fall back to resolution. In one issue.

But mostly so far it's been bullshit to me.

Nertz.  Undecided
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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2018, 08:02:32 AM »

I'm just ready for it to be over.  This was a big let down.
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