The Dark Knight
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« on: July 18, 2010, 10:46:05 PM » |
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Well, I just finished reading Blackest Night (I'm a trade-waiter) and I was blown away. The level of quality in these big universe-spanning crossovers can be quite fickle, but occasionally some beautiful blossoms rise above the dirt (or, in BN's case, a rotting, corpsified hand rises above the dirt).
What are some of your favorite crossover events? Crisis on Infinite Earths? Identity Crisis? Infinite Crisis? Final Crisis? Home Mortgage Crisis?
I'd like, if possible, to extend this discussion to Marvel as well (though I'd be fearful of having the topic banned for moving beyond the boundaries of DC on the DC board ....)
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2010, 11:27:26 AM » |
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Since I am living in my own private Mortgage Crisis, I can't vote for that!
One of my favorite Crossovers (DC-limited) was DC Challenge from the late 80s early 90s. Take 10 (I think) different writers and give them the use of any character (not used by someone else) and tell a coherent story. Oh yeah, they have no idea where the story will lead them. Each writer is left a cliff hanger to solve and then leave his cliff hanger for the next. All of them teamed up to write the conclusion.
It wasn't the greatest story, but it introduced me to a bunch of DC heroes I was unaware of...
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Jeff
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2010, 02:24:58 PM » |
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One of my favorite Crossovers (DC-limited) was DC Challenge from the late 80s early 90s. Take 10 (I think) different writers and give them the use of any character (not used by someone else) and tell a coherent story. Oh yeah, they have no idea where the story will lead them. Each writer is left a cliff hanger to solve and then leave his cliff hanger for the next. All of them teamed up to write the conclusion.
It wasn't the greatest story, but it introduced me to a bunch of DC heroes I was unaware of...
That actually sounds pretty cool. I've never read it, can you get it in trade paper back? |
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2010, 03:05:54 PM » |
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That actually sounds pretty cool. I've never read it, can you get it in trade paper back?
I doubt it. But I would guess that the 12 issues wouldn't cost more then a couple of bucks on e-bay.... |
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sinisteri
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2010, 09:58:29 PM » |
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Ya know,
My favorite will always be Crisis on Infinite Earths. It was my first major crossover when I got into seriously collecting. I started with issue#7. It made me want to read books/characters it introduced to me and catch up on others. It was years later that I collected the back issues. A few critics complain that there was no central characters or core characters to the overall story, but I was actually endeared to Harbinger, Lady Quark, Pariah, Psycho Pirate and Alexander Luther. Lyla was manipulated into killing her father figure/mentor by the her father figure/mentor. The scope of the story and its impact were major, and I felt it as a reader. I wish those characters had survived into today's lore, but alas they would probably not be written well as post stories showed. And George Perez brought every character to life even in a panel filled with crowds of individuals. That man spoiled me.
As for Marvel, my first with them was Secret Wars II which took place same year. I was not as involved with that one. So my best pick with them would have to be Age of Apocalypse. I liked how it effected all of Marvel while the rest of Marvel U moved on in other books. I loved that twisted universe and how Magneto did not have room to be labelled a villain. He is at his best defending his people as opposed to being on the offensive for him. And for a sector of Marvel where telepaths are heavily used, what a shocker their fate here. Emma Frost is my favorite character, and it hurt to see her lobotomized, but it worked here.
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A Time Lord even moreso.
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The Dark Knight
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2010, 10:38:42 PM » |
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Sinisteri, as a fan of the original Crisis, how do you feel about the way the Anti-Monitor has been used by Johns in Infinite Crisis/Sinestro Corps War. How about the way Blackest Night set him up to be a major (if not the primary) cosmic villain in the futrue of the DCU?
I personally love the respect and reverence the recent material seem to give to the Anti-Monitor (as opposed to the piss monsoon that was the treatment of the Monitor in the Countdown series ...). Whenever Johns brings him in, it feels to me like when Uatu's head appears watching a Marvel event take place. Things are taken to a new level. Really, in the DCU I'm not sure there is a higher level than the Anti-Monitor.
It's for the progeny of the original Crisis that I truly respect it. But, having recently sat down to re-read it (in pristine Absolute format no less) I must say that much of its storytelling didn't hold up for me.
As far as Marvel events go, I'm a big fan of the recent stuff. I know there are many who aren't a fan of how the Marvel U has essentially become the Universe as imagined by Bendis, Millar, and Brubaker. But I personally find these writers to be among the very best in the industry. The way the status quo was appreciably changed for such a long time by Civil War was very impressive to me. I also found Secret Invasion, on an ideological level, to be one of the most clever retcon devices conceived by comics.
What do you guys think?
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2010, 04:32:53 PM » |
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One of my favorite Crossovers (DC-limited) was DC Challenge from the late 80s early 90s. Take 10 (I think) different writers and give them the use of any character (not used by someone else) and tell a coherent story. Oh yeah, they have no idea where the story will lead them. Each writer is left a cliff hanger to solve and then leave his cliff hanger for the next. All of them teamed up to write the conclusion.
It wasn't the greatest story, but it introduced me to a bunch of DC heroes I was unaware of...
That actually sounds pretty cool. I've never read it, can you get it in trade paper back? I have a couple of issues. It was a decent read for the 80's.  |
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2010, 06:42:59 AM » |
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That actually sounds pretty cool. I've never read it, can you get it in trade paper back?
I doubt it. But I would guess that the 12 issues wouldn't cost more then a couple of bucks on e-bay.... Your right - found them on eBay for starting bid of 99 cents but shipping is $12. Went ahead and bid on them but I can get all 12 from my comic shop for $20. So if I lose the auction - no biggie. |
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2010, 04:03:31 PM » |
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I am okay with Anti-Monitor's more modern portrayals. Wish he had some contemporaries with all those Monitors that did exist recently. I still think Crisis holds up as a story. Just my opinion. Felt the moments like the Luthor/Brainiac moment when Psimon killed Brainy or psycho pirate pulling on the dead flash's costume for hope.
Like for DC to flesh out the Anti-Monitor and establish if his goal is the same.
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