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Title: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jeff on July 17, 2019, 01:34:15 PM
This has got me pumped up again about the future of the X-Men with Hickman at the helm.  I may not be able to wait 6 months for this on Marvel Unlimited.  

Comic Preview Click Here (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/07/17/first-appearancespreviews-designs-reveals-house-powers-dawn-of-x/)



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Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X - Preview
Post by: Perry on July 18, 2019, 01:27:21 AM
I know it killed me reading X-Force and Uncanny about 4 months ago. No need to read something we know is going to get wiped away in a couple months.
First issue is out next week ... Does Jeff buy? Does Jeff wait? Tune in next week and discover with us, won't you?
 ;D


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jeff on July 24, 2019, 01:58:55 PM
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House of X #1
------------------

I liked it.  In fact, loved every page of it.

There are so many characters in here that I vaguely remember or don't know at all.  Some may be new and I'll have to wait and see. 

But wow.  The bar has been raised.  And raised high.

These next four months are going to bring the X-Men to a whole new level and I can't wait!

One thing I think Perry will love......
Hickman writing the Fantastic Four.  I bet this makes you hate what they are doing in their own book even more.    :(


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jeff on July 24, 2019, 02:00:03 PM
Here is the reading order for these two kick-off mini series as per Hickman.

House of X 1 - July 24, 2019
Powers of X 1 - July 31, 2019
House of X 2 - August 7, 2019
Powers of X 2 - August 14, 2019
Powers of X 3 - August 21, 2019
House of X 3 - August 28, 2019
House of X 4 - September 4, 2019
Powers of X 4 - September 11, 2019
House of X 5 - September 18, 2019
Powers of X 5 - September 25, 2019
House of X 6 - October 2, 2019
Powers of X 6 - October 9, 2019


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Perry on July 25, 2019, 04:23:41 AM
Soooo, I read it, I came home and now I have to go back and read it again
 ;D
I enjoyed it, a lot and the best thing, I think this is one of those rare comics that are more than worth the full purchase price.

And let me say (and WILL be throwing spoilers all over the place here folks, so be safe and stay away if you haven't read it yet ... Oh and ...

One thing I think Perry will love......
Hickman writing the Fantastic Four.  I bet this makes you hate what they are doing in their own book even more.    :(

Yes I did and yes IT did
 >:(

I swear I spent waaaay too much time on his ... I don't know what to call them ... break pages or graphic information pages ... anyway, so much information there to be had. Even in the corners where it has the
0.0
2.1
and
"Xavier Alpha"
at the bottom of one page .. that type stuff. I tried to decipher what they mean, mostly to no avail  ;D
Which brings me to a question that Jeff brought up -

Here is the reading order for these two kick-off mini series as per Hickman.

House of X 1 - July 24, 2019
Powers of X 1 - July 31, 2019
House of X 2 - August 7, 2019
Powers of X 2 - August 14, 2019
Powers of X 3 - August 21, 2019
House of X 3 - August 28, 2019
House of X 4 - September 4, 2019
Powers of X 4 - September 11, 2019
House of X 5 - September 18, 2019
Powers of X 5 - September 25, 2019
House of X 6 - October 2, 2019
Powers of X 6 - October 9, 2019

Now I can't remember which ones they were, so I won't highlight them (maybe Jeff can when he reads this), but I was wondering why three (or four) of those issues were printed in Red color? There seemed to be no reason that I could see. I mean it wasn't when a title shipped ahead of another title or anything. Do you know the reason Jeff? Did I miss something with that?

Moving on and boy oh boy here is a shot in the dark ... None of these characters are the X-Men  :o :o :o

In the opening we actually see "people" being birthed from pods. Xavier looks more like the Maker, Magneto wearing that Fantomex look, Wolverine playing with kids, was that Cable that had the glowing eye after he came out of the pod?... I don't know, things seem off.

Now I am 99.99999% sure I am 100% wrong with all of that  ;D, but that pod thing ... really got in my head. Deeply.

Also, going back to the Hickman white pages  ;D
Is states on the Krakoa page, in one of those corners I was referring on trying to figure out what they all meant, that Krakoa is something like
"x" amount of size on Pacific
"x" amount in total (the total being larger)
and we see a dotted area in the map of Krakoa ... is that underwater? Is that an unknown? Is that why the size discrepancy? Just curios. Things like that make me love Hickman.

Also, did you take the time to decipher the coded message at the end of the book? I didn't but wanted to look it up today. Have not done so yet.
 ;D 

So much here to love.
I love the Mutant stance of - This world could be ours in an instant but we are happy to just stay on our little Island. We will LET you have the rest of the world, but this is the one place you will not be. Fuck off!

Love how they planted Krakoa all over the place to use as gateways

Love the Hickman page with the drug listing ... the "L" drug, the "M" drug ...

Love the nod to how powerful Franklin is, love the Omega Level chart ... I had heard Hickman hated that "Omega Level Mutant" was never set on a scale, so he took it upon himself to finally say what an Omega Level Mutant is and what it means.

I could go on.
I even love this book not knowing a lot of the darn characters  :D I mean I was basically out of the X-Men for a long time but I think the girl Mags was talking to was one of those Coo-Coos ... yeah? I know nothing about them, just a name I remember hearing so I am thinking that way.
I now a little about Cypher
there was one name ... it sounded like ... damn I can't remember ... something about or like ... Ron Lizardhead? or T-Rex ....Hahahahaha
I know that wasn't it, but ... damn it ... I can't remember the name now.

Anyway, I will leave it there, for now.... sorry for being all over the place and having so many grammatical errors  :D ;D ... so much goodness
 ;D


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jeff on July 25, 2019, 07:08:11 AM
On the highlighted issues - In the preview issue there is an interview with Hickman or the editor or someone where they say House of X #2 is a mind blowing issue.  Itís one of the highlighted ones so my pure speculation is that the highlighted ones are major reveal issues.  Thatís my only guess.

And yes, I loved the informational pages as much as the story.

You have missed a lot if you werenít sure about the Stepford Cuckoos.  Theyíre from the Morrison era but have grown into their own over the past decade.  There were originally 5 but two have died and only three are left. They are awesome.

The woman Cypher was with is Sage.  I had forgotten all about her but she was a big part of the team in the early 2000ís (I think?).  I need a refresher on her.

The smugness of the mutants was cool to see but you know it has to lead to some kind of fall.

So much in this first issue!


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Perry on July 25, 2019, 02:19:06 PM
Hey !!!  ;D .... Looks like I'm not the only one thinking this ...
X-Men? (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/07/25/by-the-maker-what-if-the-x-men-in-house-of-x-arent/)


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jeff on July 25, 2019, 07:13:43 PM
Hey !!!  ;D .... Looks like I'm not the only one thinking this ...
X-Men? (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/07/25/by-the-maker-what-if-the-x-men-in-house-of-x-arent/)


Nice call Perry.  It would explain a lot.  With Hickman you just never know!


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jeff on July 30, 2019, 05:41:48 PM
Great article about all the gushing over House of X #1.  Helps bring back the perspective that essentially - this is one issue and all of fandom has gone nuts with expectation.

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/07/29/house-of-x-the-second-coming-of-morrisons-new-x-men-x-ual-healing-7-24-19/ (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/07/29/house-of-x-the-second-coming-of-morrisons-new-x-men-x-ual-healing-7-24-19/)

Very good point that we should wait until the prologue is done before making overarching claims about the impact this will have on the X-Men franchise.


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jeff on July 30, 2019, 05:58:12 PM

You have missed a lot if you werenít sure about the Stepford Cuckoos.  Theyíre from the Morrison era but have grown into their own over the past decade.  There were originally 5 but two have died and only three are left. They are awesome.


Ok wow.  I didn't realize it but the two Cuckoo's in House of X #1....are the two that have been dead for years.   :o


Read that here:  http://www.xavierfiles.com/2019/07/26/hox-pox-tox-annotating-house-of-x-1/ (http://www.xavierfiles.com/2019/07/26/hox-pox-tox-annotating-house-of-x-1/)

This is a great deconstruction, page by page, of House of X #1.  Comes with an alphabet conversion for the Krakoa/Mutant language.


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jeff on July 30, 2019, 06:41:25 PM
On the highlighted issues - In the preview issue there is an interview with Hickman or the editor or someone where they say House of X #2 is a mind blowing issue.  Itís one of the highlighted ones so my pure speculation is that the highlighted ones are major reveal issues.  Thatís my only guess.

The highlighted issues:
House of X 2
House of X 5
Powers of X 6

These are going to be the pivotal issues that will bring things back in on themselves.


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jeff on July 30, 2019, 06:52:16 PM
Moving on and boy oh boy here is a shot in the dark ... None of these characters are the X-Men  :o :o :o

In the opening we actually see "people" being birthed from pods. Xavier looks more like the Maker, Magneto wearing that Fantomex look, Wolverine playing with kids, was that Cable that had the glowing eye after he came out of the pod?... I don't know, things seem off.

Now I am 99.99999% sure I am 100% wrong with all of that  ;D, but that pod thing ... really got in my head. Deeply.

I just had a CRAZY thought in reference to your theory.....

Let's say your right.  What if all of this is created by Moria McTaggart?  What if she is the bad guy (girl)?  She looks to be heavily on the kaleidoscope cover of House of X #2 and that is the first highlighted issue.  I think that might be her on the cover of Powers of X 6 which is the last issue of the mini series.  This is purely a guess on my part but they could be leading us that way.


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jeff on July 31, 2019, 03:18:33 PM
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Powers of X 1

Loved it.  Several time jumps.  Cool new characters.  Return of some old ones.

The Onion starts to peel.

My crazy theory up above could be starting to come true!

Also loved that...
Rasputin has multiple powers from different X-Men, including Quentin Quire.  Very Cool!


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jimmy T on July 31, 2019, 07:35:43 PM
This excitement is awesome! C'mon Unlimited!!


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Perry on August 04, 2019, 11:06:58 AM
Okay, I am alert now, naturally alert at least so let me dive into what I've been dying to dive into ...

... Comes with an alphabet conversion for the Krakoa/Mutant language.

Did you decipher it? Or look it up? I keep meaning to but haven't yet. I guess I will after this.
 :)

On the highlighted issues - In the preview issue there is an interview with Hickman or the editor or someone where they say House of X #2 is a mind blowing issue.  Itís one of the highlighted ones so my pure speculation is that the highlighted ones are major reveal issues.  Thatís my only guess.

The highlighted issues:
House of X 2
House of X 5
Powers of X 6

These are going to be the pivotal issues that will bring things back in on themselves.


Sweet. Okay, and yeah, that Hickman quote does make sense with your idea. Thanks.

I just had a CRAZY thought in reference to your theory.....

Let's say your right.  What if all of this is created by Moria McTaggart?  What if she is the bad guy (girl)?  She looks to be heavily on the kaleidoscope cover of House of X #2 and that is the first highlighted issue.  I think that might be her on the cover of Powers of X 6 which is the last issue of the mini series.  This is purely a guess on my part but they could be leading us that way.

Yeah, I like it. That would ... that would be cool. I am just a little outside this, not really reading or staying up to date onthe X-Men, it is a hindrance. Like when you discussed the Dead Cuckoos  ... I know nothing about them, so to me most of this is new. That is kinda cool, but it also means that your idea about Moria makes me happy, yet also has not impact because I have no idea what ever became of her since ... man, I can't even remember.
 :D
But hey, looking it over, the latest two issues I mean, you could be 100% right. And I could certainly be 100% wrong as we are shown in Powers of X that Charles or whomever he may be, does have telekinetic powers, having
just pulled the drive from Mystique's hand with his thoughts ... UNLESS that was Mags using his power?
Ha, just trying to keep my idea alive is all I am doing.
 :D :D

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Powers of X 1

Loved it.  Several time jumps.  Cool new characters.  Return of some old ones.

The Onion starts to peel.

My crazy theory up above could be starting to come true!

Also loved that...
Rasputin has multiple powers from different X-Men, including Quentin Quire.  Very Cool!

Yeah, that was cool. I loved the issue as well and really excited that I am getting X-Men again. For the first true time since that Bishop appearance
 ;D

Like the Cardinal idea. I ... and I know I am going to be blasted for this, but I am not really that familiar with Nimrod either. I know about him, but not to the degree that most readers do. It was nice not really needing to know though, the way this is being done.

Yeah, this is great stuff.

Breeding Pits of Mars!!!!????
 ;D 8)


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jeff on August 07, 2019, 02:43:20 PM
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House of X #2


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Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Perry on August 09, 2019, 09:51:48 AM
Loved it.
Not much a story advancement as much as it was a history/change of one of the great characters!

Still was great however!


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Perry on August 11, 2019, 05:22:47 AM
And hey, been thinking about what happens in issue #2 with Moira ...

How does that work? I mean,
she is reincarnated that many times but is she also connected to the main timeline? I see how say Hawkman does it, he comes back but time has past, but with Moira, she comes back at the start every time and brings the entire universe with her? She meets Charles at the same time, most times. I mean his age is never that much different, so is that another power to her reincarnation? That not only does SHE come back, she takes the universe back with her each time?
???


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jeff on August 11, 2019, 08:19:51 AM
Or...

Maybe sheís reincarnated in an alternate time line.


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Perry on August 12, 2019, 01:24:32 AM
Or...

Maybe sheís reincarnated in an alternate time line.

Yeah, that could certainly be it

I did like that Hickman put a .. time limit on it however. Hahaha


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jeff on August 13, 2019, 07:43:40 PM
Or...

Maybe sheís reincarnated in an alternate time line.

Yeah, that could certainly be it

I did like that Hickman put a .. time limit on it however. Hahaha


LOLOL   :D


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jeff on August 21, 2019, 12:38:42 PM
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Powers of X 2 & 3

It's all starting to come together.  Man, I really love this stuff.  And even though my theory was technically wrong, at least....
I was on the right track with Moria being important.  I just love what they are doing with her in this story.


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Perry on August 22, 2019, 05:40:45 AM
Loved the way this issue tied into the first.

And yes, Moira is important.
Tying in and also wiping out all of the X-Men convoluted history and making more precise!!!
That is the cool part about it!!! It has certainly been apparent for a few that my thoughts on Xavier were off base, and that is a good thing. Lets the X be the X!!


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jimmy T on April 30, 2020, 08:20:39 AM
Why did you guys stop talking? I just reached this point!!! ARGH! ;D


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jimmy T on April 30, 2020, 01:01:55 PM
Finished them! What an idea! What a great thing!

They always lose.

Ugh.

That hurts.


Also love from issue 1 of House of X, when Moira went black for 2 panels of a rebirth ..THAT was her 6th life; the one that ends up in the menagerie/collective before the Phalanx come to subsume post humans into their godhead (which was when she died, learning what she did, to go back and redo her next life).

I think I need to go back and reread this again. Maybe just issue 2 and to see the graph of moira's life. Or I'll google it.


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jeff on April 30, 2020, 06:32:54 PM
I think we kept talking about it in the Weekly Reader threads and forgot to come back here.

Yes - this was great.  Re-reading is not a bad idea.  i should do that too especially since I'm current.  See what seeds I may have missed on the first read.


Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Perry on May 02, 2020, 06:14:14 AM
Not saying I don't like what Hickman is doing or has done with the X side of things, but I am worried about the death aspect.

Under Hickman death is even less impactful. Now true, "Death" in comics (or at least in the big two) has become nothing but a joke by now so I respect Hickman for at least making a use of it ... kinda saying "look if they die, here is at the very least a reason why they return" but at the same time I fear it lessens the "danger" of demise even more.

I also get that there is a risk of Xavier not being able to return someone to their new body (I won't say more than that until Jimmy catches up  :)) and I am sure there will be a story-line that touches on on that soon, so that, in its own way, adds to the "threat" level and that is good, but at the same time, yeah, not sure I like the way it is right now.

Hopefully in time we will move on from it, this "hatching" system and again I am not opposed to the use of it, just a twinge of unease is all.
 :)

I do know that this is going to be my true test with MU ... if I can go 6 months without reading the X books that I have been getting, I can make MU work better for me. I am shocked that I haven't missed them so far, so I think I have a shot! And that leads me to thinking that companies may have screwed up by not producing at least digital material while this comic dead-time has been happening. Of course DC has a very, very good idea of at least selling us reprints that we (those that didn't buy the Walmart comics) haven't read so we get the feeling of new comics, but how many people will walk away from paying $4 a comic when they realize they don't miss the comics as much as they thought they were going to?

And now Marvel, according to their recent shipping list for May, June and the first part of July that ... No. I have hijacked this thread enough already ... I will make a new post for this
 ;D



Title: Re: House of X - Powers of X
Post by: Jeff on May 03, 2020, 01:31:17 PM
Under Hickman death is even less impactful. Now true, "Death" in comics (or at least in the big two) has become nothing but a joke by now so I respect Hickman for at least making a use of it ... kinda saying "look if they die, here is at the very least a reason why they return" but at the same time I fear it lessens the "danger" of demise even more.

I get what your saying and the fact that your uneasy, I think, helps to prove that it is good story telling.  At the very least it has created a myriad of thoughtful plots around the morality of it.  One of my favorite things is Nightcrawlers.....
...struggle with his religious beliefs and questions of what happens to your soul.  For me this is fascinating as I would struggle with the same question.

I also wonder, is it really the same person?  That goes along with my thoughts in the spoiler above.