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Title: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on January 16, 2017, 08:38:39 AM
(http://media.comicbook.com/2017/01/marvels-the-defenders-2-224620.jpg)

Check out the latest photo release from the set.  Looks great!

http://comicbook.com/2017/01/16/new-marvels-the-defenders-image-released-by-netflix/1 (http://comicbook.com/2017/01/16/new-marvels-the-defenders-image-released-by-netflix/1)


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on January 16, 2017, 10:55:42 AM
So super cool!!


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Perry on May 03, 2017, 07:03:22 AM
As bad, as horrible as Iron Fist was (I still have the taste in my mouth) I am super psyched for the Defenders



Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on May 06, 2017, 11:09:59 AM
What a weird use for a Nirvana song.

Maybe this can make me like Danny Rand. We'll see about Jessica, because man, she ain't no apple pie girl either.


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on May 06, 2017, 12:02:34 PM
Sigourney Weaver?  Cool!


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2017, 08:33:51 AM
Episode 1

Oh man oh man oh man!   Great start. I decided to finish Iron Fist later and go ahead and start this. Soooooo glad I did. Jessica Jones, Like Cage, Danny Rand, Matt Murdock, Misty Knight, Night Nurse, Patsy Walker (Trish), Foggy Nelson, Karen Paige, Colleen Wing, that druggy guy that lives next to Jessica (Malcolm).  Thy are all here.

Jessica and Luke steal the show for me. Jessica's smart assiness is awesome.

One of my favorite scenes:
Jessica and Trish are walking down the street in the morning drinking coffee.  Trish says "Does this have whiskey in it?"  Jess says, "Oh yeah, that's mine" and trades with her.   :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2017, 09:46:18 AM
Episode 2

 :o :o :o

Power Man vs Iron Fist!  Great fight!

And that ending!

"Jessica Jones don't say anything else.  I'm Matt Murdock.  I'm your lawyer."


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2017, 10:47:55 AM
Episode 3

I'm sold.  Three back to back great episodes.  It all starts to come together in this episode.  There is occasional cheesey dialogue that you'll roll your eyes on but it's very rare.

Moments of cool:
1) Stick cut off his own hand!!  :o
2) That final fight scene, though a little convienent just to bring them together, was fun to watch.
3) Matt vs Electra!

Sigourney Weaver's good too as Alexandra.  Is this a character from the comics I'm not aware of?


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on August 19, 2017, 11:22:22 AM
Almost done with ep 1!!!!

Man I missed Luke. So glad to see Matt again. Jessica? Man, you hard b****h, but it's good to see you too.

OH.

Hey, Danny....how you doing..... :-\


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on August 19, 2017, 11:40:02 AM
Episode 1

Oh man oh man oh man!   Great start. I decided to finish Iron Fist later and go ahead and start this. Soooooo glad I did. Jessica Jones, Like Cage, Danny Rand, Matt Murdock, Misty Knight, Night Nurse, Patsy Walker (Trish), Foggy Nelson, Karen Paige, Colleen Wing, that druggy guy that lives next to Jessica (Malcolm).  Thy are all here.

Jessica and Luke steal the show for me. Jessica's smart assiness is awesome.

One of my favorite scenes:
Jessica and Trish are walking down the street in the morning drinking coffee.  Trish says "Does this have whiskey in it?"  Jess says, "Oh yeah, that's mine" and trades with her.   :D :D :D :D :D

On board with said here. I still feel that the actor for IF is, well, weak. Poor. He emotes words, but doesn't pass the sensation off. Now, I didn't care for how Foggy and Karen were the first 3 eps of DD, and I really came around on them. So, here's hoping he wins me over.

Luke was his pure awesomeness. Just love it. Jessica, even though I could rarely personally care for her, was her best, typical self. Which means it was done well by her. Matt....Matt was good. Very, very good. Misty Knight? Pure awesomeness. Karen was sweet and beautiful-souled Karen. Foggy made his presence known, in typical Foggy fashion. I even liked seeing Trish again! Glad to see Macolm cleaned up too!!

A very well crafted, and well woven episode.


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2017, 11:56:49 AM
Episode 4

Ah. The obligatory "here's the explanation for what's going on" episode.  Not a lot of action but a lot of information.

I had a couple issues with this episode.

1) Sitting around the restaurant for the whole episode was kind of lame. Jess was the only one smart enough to say I'm outa here.
2) No way are they just going to tell Alexandra to leave.  They know she's in charge of the Hand!  They would just take her down right there and be done with it.

But they made up for it with...
Jessica throwing the car through the window to take out Electra.  That was hilarious.

So far the weakest episode but necessary to get the exposition over with.  Now we can just move forward. Let the battle begin!


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2017, 12:07:25 PM
5  minutes into episode 5

I LOVE THIS SHOW,


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2017, 12:51:47 PM
Episode 5

Starts off with a bang and then slows down.  Still a lot going on in this episode.

Highlights for me:

1) Opening fight is awesome.  The old lady is pretty bad ass.
2) Matt suits back up!  That was a great reveal.
3) Stick kills me. Or rather he kills the white suit guy! One swat and he decapitates that guy!

On to episode 6....


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on August 19, 2017, 12:52:48 PM
Episode 2

More of the same-meaning great character building and weaving in and out of stories!!

Also agreed:

Having Luke and Danny meet up was fun, with the ensuing 'fight'. Now I wonder, can Danny only IF punch with the right hand? If so; boring!!



Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on August 19, 2017, 12:55:40 PM
Jeff, it's  fun to try and chase you down with eps, but my guy might allow me to see this 3rd ep before waking from nap, but man, I think tomorrow I can get a bunch more done!

Also, maybe it's just me with my tv, but man, the sound leveling from Netflix when I'm watching, it's just awful. 100% beyond max sound with all action, and then everything just mumbles and talks under their breath and I can't hear shit.


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2017, 12:56:13 PM
5 minutes into Episode 6......

.....and Jimmy will now LOVE Jessica Jones.

just because she punched out Danny Rand.   :D


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on August 19, 2017, 12:56:48 PM
Episode 3

Starting off...

DID I SEE THAT RIGHT? DID STICK JUST CUT HIS F***ING HAND OFF?!?!


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2017, 12:57:47 PM

Also, maybe it's just me with my tv, but man, the sound leveling from Netflix when I'm watching, it's just awful. 100% beyond max sound with all action, and then everything just mumbles and talks under their breath and I can't hear shit.

It's not your TV.  Same thing on my iPad. It's pretty annoying. :-X


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on August 19, 2017, 12:58:39 PM
I also always pronounced K'un L'un as 'gun-goon', not 'gun-gun', but that's just me.


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2017, 12:58:52 PM
Episode 3

Starting off...

DID I SEE THAT RIGHT? DID STICK JUST CUT HIS F***ING HAND OFF?!?!

Oh yes!  Yes you did see that right!   :o


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on August 19, 2017, 12:59:32 PM

Also, maybe it's just me with my tv, but man, the sound leveling from Netflix when I'm watching, it's just awful. 100% beyond max sound with all action, and then everything just mumbles and talks under their breath and I can't hear shit.

It's not your TV.  Same thing on my iPad. It's pretty annoying. :-X

ARGH!!!


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on August 19, 2017, 01:02:37 PM
Boy, these cinematographers love spinning profile shots!


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on August 19, 2017, 01:30:43 PM
Episode 3

Starting off...

DID I SEE THAT RIGHT? DID STICK JUST CUT HIS F***ING HAND OFF?!?!

And further in:

OH hells yeah, that was fun in the board room! what company keeps 5 dozen men on retainer for security? LOL

In any case, damned fun to watch. If they hadn't been all goons, was Danny serious about walking in there to accuse them of being ninjas? bwahahaha so lame, but still damned fun.

At least he's getting some balls instead of being a whiny little snot. Him and Luke teaming up to take on the original room had me going "OH SWEET Christmas!!"


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on August 19, 2017, 01:36:22 PM
Episode 4

Okay that first 15 minutes of this episode is wonderful dialogue and interaction! Loved it!


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2017, 01:48:21 PM
Episode 6

Holy crap!!!!!!

Wait until you see the ending of this one Jimmy. Wow.

Highlights:
1) Stick dies!!!!
2) Electra killing Alexandria was totally unexpected. I have no idea what's going to happen next.


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Perry on August 19, 2017, 02:13:21 PM
I finally got past the first episode. Man that was a struggle ONLY because of the way they decided to make Danny such a whiny little ass in his show and that stuff had to carry over here to make it flow. Man I hate that crap. HATE IT.
 >:(



Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2017, 02:34:01 PM
Episode 7

More good fights.  And the build up for the finale.

Nice dragon skeleton at the end too.


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2017, 02:35:06 PM
I finally got past the first episode. Man that was a struggle ONLY because of the way they decided to make Danny such a whiny little ass in his show and that stuff had to carry over here to make it flow. Man I hate that crap. HATE IT.
 >:(


You gotta let that go my friend.  Don't let it ruin your experience on this one.   ;)


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2017, 03:30:19 PM
Episode 8

Done.  Good series.  It's not without its problems (and predictability) that I could nit pick on but they're so trivial in my mind I won't sully the experience.  I LOVED this series.

And I can't believe I was the first to finish this!  That has to be a Herorealm first!   ;D :D :D

I'll wait for everyone else to finish before discussing further.  Plus after 8 hours I need a break and the family wants food.  :D

Overall I'll give it an 8.5 to 9 shots of whiskey.


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on August 20, 2017, 08:34:26 AM

And I can't believe I was the first to finish this!  That has to be a Herorealm first!   ;D :D :D


No kidding!! Did you Ferris Bueller your family and avoid some family road trip to great-great-grandma's and stay home and watch Defenders with nachos all day?


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Mitch on August 21, 2017, 07:04:17 AM
Almost done with ep 1!!!!

Man I missed Luke. So glad to see Matt again. Jessica? Man, you hard b****h, but it's good to see you too.

OH.

Hey, Danny....how you doing..... :-\

 :D :D :D


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on August 21, 2017, 12:04:50 PM
Anyone make anymore progress?


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Perry on August 21, 2017, 12:13:17 PM
I'm past episode 2, but now I am going to start over as the wife says she wants to watch.

Oh joy, I get to see early episode crybaby Danny again.
 ::)


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on August 21, 2017, 01:10:23 PM
I did finish ep5....i think. Child didn't give me as much free time Sunday. It's got me inspired to get going more on that Jo Duffy work


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Perry on August 23, 2017, 02:23:16 AM
Well, I am done once more with episodes one and two. Me and the Mrs. will be hitting episode three sometime or another. If I don't at least finish three first, as I was only about 10 minutes from being done with that when the wife decided she wanted to watch.
 :-\

 :)



Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on August 23, 2017, 07:22:55 AM
Now I know how you guys feel when I take forever to watch something.

It's.....killing......me........

 ;D


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Perry on August 23, 2017, 11:32:38 AM
Yeah ... Good.

Feel it, man, feel what you put us through!!!

 ;D


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Wringer on August 24, 2017, 04:08:07 PM
i finished up to 7 last night.  i actually just finished Cage over the weekend and jumped right into this, skipping IF for now.

this series has been a lot of fun.  i have enjoyed all the other series but this one has me grinning like a kid  at Christmas (or in my case Hanukkah :) ).  Very similar to the feeling i had when i saw IM for the 1st time...just really enjoyed and had fun watching it unfold.

lots of good character interaction...loved seeing Matt and Jess get along while investigating the architect.  definately was not expecting the end of ep 6...just good stuff

2 more to go tonight....only thing that sucks is its only 8eps...i could use another 5 :)



Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on September 09, 2017, 01:46:15 PM
Ep 5, finally!!!

Ugh. Colleen's mentor of the Hand is terrible. Terrible in the lines written for him (so damned cliched), and terrible in delivery.

So happy to see Karen and Foggy again!!

Not sure who drags the show down more, Elektra or Danny.

I think that's about all I took away from this ep. :)


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on September 09, 2017, 01:55:00 PM
5 minutes into Episode 6......

.....and Jimmy will now LOVE Jessica Jones.

just because she punched out Danny Rand.   :D

Damn right!! LOL

The beginning of this ep is...stupid/confusing. Their 'plan' is a rightfully forced angle that splinters, not joins.


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on September 09, 2017, 02:41:11 PM
Episode 6

Holy crap!!!!!!

Wait until you see the ending of this one Jimmy. Wow.

Highlights:
1) Stick dies!!!!
2) Electra killing Alexandria was totally unexpected. I have no idea what's going to happen next.

You are right; holy crap!!

I have this weird....feeling that ..that I haven't been liking where this has been going.

1. Too much Elektra (obviously, can't be helped)
2. Too much Iron Fist/K'un L'un stuff (again, can't be helped)
3. Current plot of keeping Danny tied up. WTF, seriously, huh? Why? I ...truly can't fathom why this is the course of current action.
4. Stick's last motivation. Was he getting ready to kill Danny? Right? If so, why not kill him quick when Elektra showed up? Or, did he martyr himself to bring others into action? Nah, not buying that.

The GREAT part of this ep was seeing Jessica and Matt just be allies and compatriots alongside each other-as people. They are trying it with Luke and Danny, and it has it moments. It would help if Danny didn't whisper everything in a growl voice like he was a lead on 'Supernatural.'

There are parts currently right now where I can't tell if the story is going well, or if I simply am being stunned by the elements occurring. Stick and Alexandra's death do not equate to good storytelling; they are tremendous moments, but a story they do not make.

In the end, I think I am just looking forward to some cool fighting and team ups. I shouldn't question the plot so much.  ;D



Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Perry on September 09, 2017, 03:23:44 PM
Made it through.

Was/Am happy this was not a full 13 episode run
Was/Am sad that it was even 8 ... this could have been a two or maybe three hour movie. Tons of filler with tons of phony "standing around" fighting. Just tons of guys waiting to be hit, tossed or kicked. Man I hate that. Makes everything look like television in the 80's
 >:(


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on September 10, 2017, 06:24:43 AM
Guesses on the final ep (I'm obviously through ep 6)

Danny uses his "I am the Immortal Iron Fist. I focus my chi through my fist" power to cause the Midlawn building to collapse in on itself, filling in the demolition whole that the dead contractor was going to do


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on September 14, 2017, 06:05:32 PM
Ep 7

-Great weaving of all the characters from all the series spinning and dancing in, around, and through each others' lives. That's good stuff right there.

-Loved Foggy's line
That's what family does. And damn, but he did lose weight and looks good! Way to go Foggy!

For the ep itself

There's no way that Matt's ID could ever be secret after this, right? Not unless no one knows that Daredevil was at Midlawn building.

Also, how dumb as dogshit is Danny to fight with his lit up Iron Fist near the special wall he's not supposed to touch?
 Also, damn, but he, or his stunt double, are awful at martial arts. Daredevil and his stunt double? Damned awesome movers, I'll say that.

and I'm correctly assuming he's back in K'un L'un within the skeleton of Shou Lung?


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jeff on September 15, 2017, 05:51:02 AM
I'm dieing to tell you if your right or wrong on you guesses for the ending but I'll wait.  You'll find out on the next episode.   ;D


Title: Re: The Defenders - Season 1
Post by: Jimmy T on September 21, 2017, 08:15:56 PM
Ep 8 FINISHED!!!!!

A show certainly with it's warts-but some damned awesome moments too

The way I write this, it's going to sound like I really disliked this series. What I think happens is that as I watched it in a mad rush, its so new, and fun and full of ALL THE THINGS that I like it. As I had to take my time watching the last 3, well, I settle down into seeing it, and well, then my reviewer mind takes over. And I hate my reviewer mind at some times. But I always look way deeply into what I'm doing to see if it's justified to give it my attention.

The ending? Flat. Why? Because it was about Elektra. I'll just say it like that. Matt, whether it's tv or comics, is an utter idiot when it comes to her. Perhaps because it's true love-but that's only from his (blind) POV. It's an element I've never enjoyed, considering with comics, you can see it again and again and again. Being done in the show, with how the character was written and portrayed only made me irritated to watch. Daredevil Sn 2 was nearly unliked by me because of her, and her and Matt's storyline together.

After ep 5, Danny Rand was absolutely f***ing useless to the show. He was a tool, and a plot point that advanced the rising action to the final resolution. That was it. And, his fighting/stunt fighting never improved. DD/Stunt guy was awesome down in the bone caves. Awesome, hard hitting 'real' looking punches, blocks, kicks-just smashed the crap out of anyone he went up against. Now, I get it; Shang Chi is probably the best trained martial artist of the Marvel world, but Iron Fist is no slouch. Oh wait, I'm sorry he his. There was nothing that said even green belt karate about this guy. Daniel Russo could beat Danny, and he wouldn't even need the crane kick. That guy has to improve. They have to improve his kung fu. Get Donny Yen to train him or something. His arms should be a damned blur of improbable blocks and counters. Every fight panel with him is one block and then a punch. He is the least exciting player.

This show always plays a bit with how strong Luke is. Opening the hidden iron doors to the elevator? Have Luke do it. Fight 60 unnamed bad guys, and he bothers with ducking, blocking, and multiple strikes? At less Jessica was always throwing and one-shotting guys all over the place. Not sure why Luke wasn't. That irked me.

I do DO appreciate the cinematography of the circle shot of the group fighting random ninja thugs (how the hell many trips did it take them to all get down the elevator?) That was pretty cool to have the continuously filmed scene occur!

Speaking of elevator, why the hell use it? Random ninjas kept climbing up and getting in it, as if this was the co-op version of Double Dragon 2!! C'mon, what the hell!!  :D

Loved LOVED seeing the character interaction more than anything in this series. From Karen to Foggy to Claire to Misty to Patsy to Drugged Neighbor, all were so damned cool. That made this series live and breathe.

Because, the part I hated, was THERE WAS A DAMNED DEAD DRAGON OR TWO UNDERNEATH NEW YORK?!!

OH COME ON!!!!

That wall seriously couldn't have been a mystical wall blocking a portal to K'un L'un, sealed by a prior Iron Fist centuries ago, to prevent traitorous Hand people from coming back to steal the bones? No, it's just underneath New York.

Ugh. No more lame ninja shit. Unless Michael Dudeikoff rises up as the next Master of the Hand, leave them well enough alone.

Also, the 'everyone got off scot free with no charges' was such a damned huge stupid pill to swallow, well....damned, you lost some credibility there. No offense Marvel Netflix, you did!!


I really am so glad this got made. I'm so glad to have watched it. I'm so glad that this was able to happen!

On to Punisher!!!