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Title: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Jimmy T on October 12, 2016, 05:48:18 PM
....may have my most favorite beginning 10 minutes of an episode ever!!
;)

(SUPER-hyperbole)

Seriously, this show, in the first act, gets everything right about Clark and Superman that the new movies directions have failed so utterly at. If anything, they are opposite sides of the same coin. Cavill may as well be Bizarro to Hoechlin's Superman!

I loved the episode. All the things they clunkily built at times in Season 1 come off in the manner that I want them to here. Kara is sweet, optimistic, hard on her self, but self-assured that she can do right. Her sister Alex doesn't seem as hampered here playing Gung-Ho action bitch as she was last season. Cat Grant continues to be amazing (will miss her as she filters out of regular cast membership. Even Winn finally gets recruited for his BEYOND AMAZING TECH SKILLS THAT NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED AT A MAGAZINE), and James...well, time to find something to do with him. Once you take the heart throb aspect out, and with Superman actually there to give his Super-advice that James kept giving Kara all last season in a very knowing manner, his character is washed out and weak-ass here.

BUT I LOVED IT!!!

The Supers action was super. I dig Superman's look here, loved his character, enjoyed all the set up and continuation of stuff. Loved that Hank/J'onn settled into his role really well last year after his reveal.

I'm so excited about this that I may actually buy the awkward Season 1 dvds just to show support for Season 2!!

The best part? It's Supergirls show, Superman is supporting, and it totally fits and works.


Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Jimmy T on October 19, 2016, 06:00:34 PM
Last Children of Krypton Ep 2

Mostly, I'm sad to see Superman leave for a time again. :( I know Hoechlin will return as a cameo guest again, but these 2 eps got everything SO RIGHT about Superman that the past movies have only gotten wrong that I'm so very sad to see him go!!

Still really enjoying the show. Quite a lot! Winn's toned down, but still fun as Winn, so I enjoy that. Hank with Superman was really good, and I enjoy Hank a lot. Alex's story and interaction was a bit off this week, and I ask this:

about her fight with Metallo. Superman's Metallo dude punches J'onn into orbit, but Alex gets a face punch and doesn't have her head explode? LOL

Also, I'm terribly saddened to see Cat leaving. Going to miss her terribly!!

Glad to see Snapper Carr treat Kara as a boss should-you have no experience, or training, or anything, so no, I'm not keeping you.



Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Jimmy T on October 30, 2016, 12:31:50 PM
I'm behind a week now.


Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Jeff on October 30, 2016, 02:40:58 PM
Me too. But I'm sure we will catch up soon as the kiddo doesn't like to miss her Supergirl.


Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Jimmy T on November 19, 2016, 08:33:28 PM
Ep 3 'Welcome to Earth'

Damn, Linda Carter still looks fine!!  :-* ;D :D

Cool ep. I'm enjoying Hank a lot more this season, and Supergirl is still a wonderful figure who Benoist is making shine in every scene.

Catco is a bit awkward right now, what with the role that James Olsen has assumed -which, by the way, makes him as useless as a kickstand on a 3-wheeler. I never thought the actor really brought much to the screen, and now the role really isn't adding anything either. If he was brought in to give a fledgling Supergirl legitimacy as a rightful hero alongside the likes of her cousin because Olson has seen it all happen already-mission accomplished. Ditch him from the show, to be honest.

Glad to see Snapper Carr have a bit more bite to him. Love that.
Glad to see Winn in his new role and a job that makes sense since HE'S THE GREATEST COMPUTER MIND THAT THIS WORLD KNOWS.
Alex is better each and every ep, so I appreciate that.

As for :

the alien being Mon-El and not some mystery Kryptonian, I'm a little saddened that his original naming occurred because he had amnesian, and Superboy just named him for finding him on a Monday, and giving him his own house name. The way it occurred here made it seem like that the 2 of them could be weird kissing cousins. Oh well.

Cool way for M'gnn to appear on the show!! And I"m all for J'onn to be in Martian outfits more often. I mean, it's a headpiece, with cheek lifts, and green make up with contacts. People have been wearing that and more on Star Trek for 30 years of tv and more!! It's not that hard!!  :D

No, very glad to be watching this show this year now. Very cool.


Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Jeff on November 19, 2016, 09:03:06 PM
Ep 4

Dammit.  I can't watch this show anymore.

I watch this with my nine year old and they've decided to go with adult themes that she isn't mature enough to discuss with.

Very sad that this was my last episode.


Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Perry on November 20, 2016, 08:03:42 AM
Ep 4

Dammit.  I can't watch this show anymore.

I watch this with my nine year old and they've decided to go with adult themes that she isn't mature enough to discuss with.

Very sad that this was my last episode.

Wow, that bad? On Supergirl? What happened?


Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Jeff on November 21, 2016, 03:17:10 PM
No, it's not bad.  Just going with some themes my girls not old enough to understand yet. Unnecessary themes but we can't watch it with her and I'm not that interested in watching without her.


Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Jimmy T on November 21, 2016, 06:58:35 PM
Ep 4 'Survivors'

Yeah, they laid it on thick here!!

Perry:

They revealed before the season that an 'important' cast member would be gay. So, it's Supergirl's made up foster sister Alex who is going to be lesbian. It's NOT subtle, to say the least!!


That said, I dug me some Martians, and I dug me some Mon-El time, so I'm still calling this a show on the up and up.

However, yes, I can definitely agree with Jeff that the sweet natured season 1 themes might not be the best for a 9 year old. Sorry, Jeff. :(


Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Perry on November 21, 2016, 07:52:46 PM
Well as I didn't see it, I'm not commenting.
Best thing in this case.
 :D

But sure, If they are going overboard with the sex stuff, you have to do what parents need to do.



Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Jeff on November 22, 2016, 08:38:07 AM
I may let it keep dvring and catch up on my own when she's not around.  Like I said, not a bad show and it doesn't bother/matter to me (didn't want to leave wrong impression).  My TV time is so limited and it helps when I can watch things with the kiddo - like Flash.


Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Perry on November 22, 2016, 04:13:31 PM
No wrong impression from me, buddy.  :)

I understand what you meant by just knowing you over all this time. I know it wasn't a case of
".... and now they got them darn 'gays' in that show!!!"
bullshit anger you were talking about here, but more of an age appropriate thing. 8)



Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Jeff on November 22, 2016, 09:29:41 PM
Exactly.  Glad to hear it came out right.  :)


Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Jimmy T on December 04, 2016, 02:36:30 PM
Ep 5 'Crossfire'

Okay, stuff just got damned stupid.
James Olsen is pissed that there are horrible people out there, and he wants to punch them, cuz he's sick of being a sidekick to INVULNERABLE BEINGS WITH INFINITE STRENGTH AND POWER.

So, he's going to go out vigilante? UGH. I'm glad Winn was at least initially "you're stupid! what's wrong with you?!" but, of course, plot; so Winn will help out James. Who has no training. No martial arts background. Appearingly fit. No plan.

F'ing dumb. Ugh.

That said, I like the Supergirl stuff, I like how oblvious Mon-El is to this whole 'fit into earth thing' and holy shit, are they ramming it over the head about Alex switching teams!!!



Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Perry on December 05, 2016, 02:27:51 AM
Not sure what episode I am on or trying to get through I should say. Maybe it's "Crossfire" as it would make sense title wise as that "Invasion" crossover is the only reason I am trying to watch this show, but I will avoid Jimmy's spoiler tag for now but can't wait to see what it says.


Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Jimmy T on December 05, 2016, 12:16:05 PM
Ep 6 'Changing'

Everything I said or felt about the last ep just gets turned on it's head.

DAMNED fine episode. I knew Chyler Leigh (Alex) could act since Grey's Anatomy. This role has never asked her to do that yet. Until this ep with her coming out. What an amazing written arc for the character in this episode. Maggie's reaction, and also the (presumably) correct thing to push her away as Alex figures out what this all means, then the break down in tears with "She doesn't like me!" was heart wrenching. I was stunned, positively stunned, by how the writers did something with such merit, honesty, and truth in feelings. I know it was really heavily pushed that Alex was going to be gay, but in the manner of the rollout and understanding for the character herself, I can only coo about what a great job they did.

The rest of the ep was good too.I really dug the visual of Parasite! There's a hope that the matter that was Rudy Jones isn't purely gone, but once it gets a bit more energy, perhaps it will reconstitute! Always gotta have a good rogues' gallery.

I love, LOVED how Winn took it to James at the DEO (by the way, James can come and go as he pleases in this gov't agency. He must have the 'He's cool; don't worry' card. ;)

But Winn going after James, and setting him in his place was EXCELLENT. "I'M TELLING YOU, YOU GO OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, YOU DIE. YOU'RE DEAD. DO YOU GET THAT? THE SUITS READY WHEN I SAY IT'S READY." Damned awesome moment. Winn really became, well, a man to me here. Not a bit character, but a man of conviction and promise. 'Who are you to boss me around <James>? You're not my boss; you don't command me. We're in my area now."

However...that gets a bit scratched later by having him fall in line with James to get him out on the street. Blah. I'd have been happier to simply see James leave the show like Cat Grant in the first few eps.

Looking forward to an eventual suited up Mon-El!!!



Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Jimmy T on December 05, 2016, 01:42:23 PM
Ep 7 'The Darkest Place'

Damn fine episode. This show is finally at a place where the built up continuity and relationships really stack up with each other, and the subplots can write themselves and sustain the show. The other events that happen are just icing on the cake.

Usually.

I love how James is so damned smug about Guardian then gets his ass put in place. Ugh, I can't stand this character! LOL

Great to see Dean Cain make an appearance. Huzzah!!

Great stuff with Harewood this ep. His great green Martian stuff, stuff with him and M'gnn is great stuff. Really enjoying this. CGI is particularly good as well. AND he gets to be Cyborg Superman? LOL what a comic booky way to announce who you are. HA! Now I want to see him in another suit as well ala C.S. himself. ;)

And, Alex and Maggie are doing some fantastic stuff here. Great writing here. Very great.

Really enjoying where the show is now. So very very good.



Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Jimmy T on December 06, 2016, 04:45:45 AM
Ep 8 'Medusa'

Being billed as the first of a 4 parter was a lie! Flash and Cisco show up like Doc Brown at the end of Back to the Future and say she has to come with them! That's it! Rip off!! :p

It's a rather pat episode. Issues or problems that have been our subplots the past 3-5 eps are all cleared up here. That doesn't make it bad, it just makes it seem a bit like the end of a cartoon.

J'onn's white martian infection happened to get cured also when the non-virus was released.

Mon-El's contagion was cured (but that would have happened for sure, what with the infection being this episode).

Alex and Maggie get together (which, actually, was one of the strongest parts of the ep. Watching Alex grow, particularly with her mother was really good stuff).

Hell, I even love the simmerling 'love lost' eyes that Mon gave Supergirl as she walked away from him at the end of the ep as he hid his feelings from her.

Thankfully, no Guardian. ;)

I can't remember if this is the first half gap or break for the show, but it feels really tied up for the moment!



Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Perry on December 10, 2016, 08:35:07 AM
Can't believe I watched that entire damn "crossover" episode to get that.
 >:( >:( >:(

The CW pulled a "Marvel tie-in" on me

 >:( >:( >:(

May have hung around for more Supergirl, but ... okay, no that is not true.  :D I can barely watch the Flash at an enjoyment level I am comfortable with, I can't do this.

Honestly, yes, I'm mad they got me, but the show was not bad. Just not for me.


Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Gay Titan on December 14, 2016, 09:27:51 AM
Every other CW show had a mid-season finale. Did Supergirl?


Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Jimmy T on April 25, 2017, 06:12:31 PM
I laugh, because of how much I hate James Olson. He hasn't been in the last 3 episodes since before or after the Mxy ep!!


Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Jimmy T on June 10, 2017, 10:39:07 AM
Forgot to finish off my TV reviewing with Supergirl.

I'm greatly disappointed in this season. I feel there were 7 truly good and great eps-and they were the 5 with Superman and the ones with Alex coming out.

Beyond that, the show did an incredible misstep in making James Olsen Guardian. Why do I feel that? Because in the final 8 eps of the season, he was only in 3. And he was mostly left behind after act 2 and his whole Guardian shtick taking off. I didn't like the character, I didn't like him being made CatCo's boss, and I didn't like his bullshit whining about why he had to be a vigilante and why everyone should help him.

This show is almost insanely hampered by the amount of computer magic needed to keep it run. Oh, the other shows need it too-it's a hallmark for the Flash (big superscience show), it's overused in Arrow (because it keeps Felicity involved, but I feel it's also hurt the show), and funny enough, the Time Travel show of Legends doesn't even use it that much once they are out and on their missions!!

At least giving Winn a job with the DEO made sense, because it was bullshit to have him at CatCo.

Also, I hate the DEO. It's just...a very weak element to me, and I just don't believe it in it as portrayed. It's a back up to the show, but it doesn't help hold it up. LIke, all the stuff with Jeremiah and Luthor mother in the middle of the season was weak and bland tasting sauce. No good!!

The stuff with Mon El I was fine with, and actually the rising climax action and results with the Daxamites was pretty good.

Also, I feel that aside from the good eps, this show really took too many steps back with the 'oh supergirl watch out its dangerous, oh no she's falling, please wake up!!' And people continually telling her not to do some act, or go some place because they are worried about her.

SHE'S THE GOD-D***ED SUPERGIRL!!!

She goes where she wants!!

I love how the show shined around every moment that Cat Grant was on screen. Miss her so much, and I know she won't be back, and that's a hurtful thing. Snapper Carr is a replacment for her, but he doesn't resonate on a fatherly level to Kara the way that Cat did. And that is seriously missing.

So what will the show do? Just hang around mission control table in the DEO and fly out to do stuff? Supergirl excels when it's Kara being human, being loving, being caring. I don't need everyone staring at a bank of computer screens-there's already way too much of that boring stuff in Flash and Arrow.


Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Mitch on July 26, 2017, 11:37:18 AM
Seriously, this show, in the first act, gets everything right about Clark and Superman that the new movies directions have failed so utterly at. If anything, they are opposite sides of the same coin. Cavill may as well be Bizarro to Hoechlin's Superman!

Completely agree.  Brilliant characterization.  A modern Superman who likes being Superman.  That good ol' "aw shucks, ma'am" Midwestern farmboy who saves the day with a grin and a wink.  Love it.


Title: Re: Supergirl Season 2
Post by: Mitch on July 26, 2017, 11:41:12 AM
So what will the show do? Just hang around mission control table in the DEO and fly out to do stuff? Supergirl excels when it's Kara being human, being loving, being caring. I don't need everyone staring at a bank of computer screens-there's already way too much of that boring stuff in Flash and Arrow.

Also agreed.  TV's Arrowverse has way too many "Oracles."  To borrow a term from the new Spidey movie, why does every hero need a "guy in the chair"?