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Title: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jeff on September 08, 2016, 10:14:18 AM
Now who's the villain, Flash?  Who's the villain!




Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jimmy T on October 03, 2016, 06:29:34 PM
Barry is a dink. At least, by his choices to end season 2.  >:(


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jimmy T on October 05, 2016, 07:31:33 PM
Ep 1

Man, I'm not sure I like the Flashpoint as a general reset just to screw with people to make a different angle of relationships between characters. Don't ruin the soup by trying to take out stewed veggies and add other ingredients! It doesn't work!

That said, Thawne is DAMNED AWESOME. I look forward to the REAL first time they get to meet. Man, I'd love to see tha at some point!!

But Barry, you're a dink. Keep listening to those around who give sound advice (ie everyone who talked to you in Season 2!!!) and things might turn out a bit better for yourself. ;)


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jimmy T on October 30, 2016, 12:32:22 PM
Behind posting a week, and behind the tv show for 2 weeks!!! ARGH!!


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jeff on October 30, 2016, 02:37:14 PM
I'm also two weeks behind.  Yikes!


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Perry on November 02, 2016, 07:25:11 AM
So I finally got caught up on my Flash watching, all but this past weeks (yesterday?) episode.

Look I like it, I do, but if I have to hear (and I know I do) one more person say "I'm going to go talk to him", "Let me go talk to her", "you should go talk to them" or any variation of that again from this show, my head may just explode.

I swear I think I counted 7 times that phrase in some shape or form was said in just the three episodes I watched last night. It was crazy. Jesus ... enough with all the "i'm going to talk" talking!!! I am going to listen for it in this next episdoe, you know I will. I just wonder if they can go one episode without any "...go talk..."? Just one?

 :D

That said the Flashpoint thing was cool enough. I do kinda wish Flash would go back to just fighting a villain for an episode or two without a drawnout story arc being involved. Just for a break. We went right from Reverse Flash to Zoom to now Dr. Alchemy. Kinda wish we could just fight a few villains and move onto the next villain for a few episodes.

Oh yeah, also, what is the damn deal with all the running? I know Flash is about speed, but it isn't just running. The damn bad guy Rival (who looks more aquatic with his head-fins than he does a speedster) tells Barry "Let's go!!" and instead of fighting, they chase each other? Rival says something about how he is going to beat Flash's head in (not exactly) but then they show these blurs and Rivil is the one in the lead? First, why are they running???? This isn't a race@!!! Second, why are you, the one saying you are going to physically abuse the other guy, the one that is in the lead of this race that shouldn't be happening? You are literally trying to run away. Yes?

Oh sure the streaks look cool on tv and IO know that is why they are doing it, but 99% of the time Flash fights his foes without moving much at all.
 :D

I know it doesn't sound like I am enjoying the show, but I am, mostly.
 ;D

But for now, I'm going go talk to my wife.
 :D


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jimmy T on November 06, 2016, 07:11:41 PM
Dammit Perry! Now, all I heard was the lines "I'll go talk.." and "Go talk to..."   :D

Ep 3 'Magenta'

I laughed at tweenie Magenta here, as well as tv writing and knowledge of 'schizophrenia/multiple personality disorder', but I appreciate an episode that isn't entirely about the huge big bad of the season. Nor was the ep filled with the maudlin depression that most of the last season had in the back half.

Also? the damned funniest exchange since I don't know when in the series:

When Joe was explaining 'cop dad' to Barry, and why he never had to use it on Barry, since Barry was 'like having a second daughter; you always over-shared' and he goes 'just kidding!' I damn near pissed my pants laughing!!

The show is having a bit more fun in it's own meta-text exchange. I like that.

Also,

How cool was it to see Frankie try to drop an oil tanker on the hospital? LOL


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jeff on November 06, 2016, 07:30:51 PM
Dammit Perry! Now, all I heard was the lines "I'll go talk.." and "Go talk to..."   :D


Lol.  That's all I heard too.  Especially in that 3rd episode.


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jimmy T on November 19, 2016, 08:25:01 PM
Ep 4 'The New Rogues'

Totally cool ep!!

I dug having Mirror Master finally show up. Although, I'm glad that McCullough was mentioned as MM on Earth-2 with his Mirror-gun, I'm a little sad that Sam Scudder here was this douche bag, non-partial costumed.

OH, and I'm so mad it took me so long to realiza that Rosaline Dillon was the Top (not Roscoe Dillon). So cool!!

I'd like to see her come back by herself and show some jazzed up super spinning powers ala the comics. Geoff Johns made the Top damned scary when his memory came back-I'd like to see a huge protagonist as a female on these shows at some point.

I really like how this show is having an easy time showing day-to-day things. Relationships, eating a meal, sharing jokes and laughs. The stuff with Joe and Barry being so uncomfortable with each other over 'the conversation' was great-just like last eps' jokes about Barry being a girl!

However, what I don't think I like was

The cavalier attitude of 'lets just find another Harrison Wells' and believing that he'll fit right in with the group. WTF boneheaded play is that?! Seriously?! And you reveal all that you know to this dude right away?

I laugh at how quickly Flashpoint changes have faded away. Cisco's brother is now dead, but he's recovered and more or less is old self. Him and Harry was such a joy to continually watch. Joe was a partial drunk, and a shitty detective, but he is more or less the respectable and respected version he was last 2 seasons.

I'm glad the big bad Alchemy hasn't made all the season doom and gloom up to and until the final episodes ala Zoom. So, for that, I really appreciate this season a lot!!!


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jeff on November 19, 2016, 08:57:39 PM
Ep 6 Shade

Damn you Perry.  Now every episode has turned into a drink when someone says let me talk to them game.  And I wind up drunk every episode.


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jimmy T on November 21, 2016, 06:29:12 PM
Ep 6 Shade

Damn you Perry.  Now every episode has turned into a drink when someone says let me talk to them game.  And I wind up drunk every episode.

I think ep4 that only happened twice, though! LOL

But I was playing with the baby at the time, so I may have missed a few. ;)


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jeff on November 22, 2016, 08:39:46 AM
Ep 6 Shade

Damn you Perry.  Now every episode has turned into a drink when someone says let me talk to them game.  And I wind up drunk every episode.

I think ep4 that only happened twice, though! LOL

But I was playing with the baby at the time, so I may have missed a few. ;)

I'm a lite weight. Two drinks and I'm wearing lamp shades.   :D


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Perry on November 22, 2016, 04:14:33 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D

Damn, I got to catch up on this show. I've been needing a few drinks lately, for some reason.   ;)

:D :D :D


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Perry on November 27, 2016, 08:38:48 AM
Episode 5(?) the one where
Caitlin goes to her mom

This was an okay episode. I just hate that this show, that pushes the value or at least the effort in "talking", keeps having their characters not talk to anyone. Why wouldn't Caitlin just tell the guys whats going on with her? Why would she hide the fact? I just don't think I will buy that she doesn't want them to know for the reasons they will reveal.

And the way the CW stretches out things that everyone knows ... If you didn't know what was going on with "H.R" halfway through this episode ...
Yet the characters, these super smart characters, can't figure out that
he isn't a scientist?
Even when they get right there, so close, minutes before?

I like this show, but I hate that it could be so much better if they would just stop dumbing it down. Write the characters like they should be, not just to fill the episode. Stop dropping all the clues, letting the viewer know what is going on, before you let the people that are actually there and should easily see what is going on see the shit!!! I understand the out of sight stuff that characters don't know, but when you have Cisco even say "Wait a minute ..." and then have him not connect the dots, until like 8 scenes later? Arrrggghhh.

Even still, I did, for the most part, like the episode. I liked how
Caitlin's power (or alter-ego I guess) took control.

Hope to get to episode 6 and 7 here soon.
 :)


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jimmy T on December 04, 2016, 02:41:31 PM
Ep 'Monster'

Nope, I'm with Perry, and going a bit further. Caitlin being scaredy kat about her powers and hiding it from her friends is only servicing one helluva dumb plot. Stuff with HR was annoying, and to be fair, really damned insipidly stupid that finding a 'Fill In the Blank Harrison Wells' would result in the exact same team dynamic or workmanship. NOT a fan of this.

It's obvious they want Earth-2 Wells, but actually wrote a good storyline to explain that the man would rather live on his own homeworld. So, they wrote something poor to bring in another.

What I don't want is...

comic book Killer Frost, who goes all evil cuz her powers took over. I want a confused as hell Kaitlin who becomes a villain. Not what I'm afraid will happen, and that's as badly written schizo who goes evil, cuz, you know, powers. And just does evil things, cuz you know, powers.


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jimmy T on December 05, 2016, 12:21:53 PM
Ep  6 'Shade'

I'm a little miffed that the Shade wasn't the amazing gentleman monster man of a bygone age from James Robinson's Starman run. Instead, he's a hoodlum? Why? For what reason? He just does things to be a dick? Why kill that guy right away in the beginning? Mind you, I'm sick out of my gourd with a stomach flu, so maybe some of the finer details fell through the cracks in watching, but the motivation for this loser was really, supremely lost.

Savitar! Nice! Gonna be interesting right there! You know, I don't know anything about Savitar except that he was a barechest dude who put major color patterns of yellow in with blue highlights only and thought it was a good idea. ;)

Caitlin still blows my mind. why are you hiding from people who love you and want to help you? No wonder you go evil as Killer Frost; your psyche is all messed up, kitten.

This whole thing with Wally 'I'm gonna get my powers and then its going to be so cool!' is annoying. I mean, we know it's going to happen, but the show characters don't. Why Joe hasn't yelled before "What makes  you believe it will happen!? You are insane for continuing to act this way! Stop it!!" But, they don't, because the characters meta-know it will happen. So, here's hoping it still turns out well.

well...Wells! Oh HR, you are such a weird figure on this program. Now, I'm just getting used to you. ;)



Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jimmy T on December 05, 2016, 03:56:44 PM
Ep 7 'Killer Frost'
I won't lie; I'm not sure I still buy Caitlin's transformation into K.F., but at least they gave me a bit more to believe in with the process. I'm okay with it.

Well, Wally is out and cooked to a nice medium well speedster, so we'll see if it ends up being okay. Knew it was coming.

Also, with Draco being Alchemy -THAT WAS D'UH!!! Of course that was going to happen; just needed it come about!!!

Decent episode, and looking forward to Invasion! next week (viewing, at least).



Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Perry on March 19, 2017, 11:03:42 AM
episode 16 - Into the Speed Force or When Perry Finally Gave Up (alternative title)

I can do it no longer. It is bad enough struggling through the sophomoric "I love you" dialog and the "I'll go talk to them" actions of every episode, but when
Iris tells Barry that she has changed her mind and wants to be his wife, only to have Barry tell her that they need to take a break
... Yeah, I am officially done.

I am not going through that crap. I have fought this kinda stuff for too long, but now they bring the final "lets all be 15 year old children" action to the table, it is time for me to stand up, push my chair in, bow my head to those still sitting and slowly walk away.

See ya, Barry. You little EDITED
 :P :P :P


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jimmy T on March 20, 2017, 03:45:56 AM
Yeah, this season hasn't been the best all around.

Every. damned. time. someone leaves and another person says 'I'll/you should go talk to them' I just say out loud to myself 'Do another shot, Perry.' Dammit! I notice it all the time.

Now, I'm back at the first ep of the 2 parter with Grodd, so I'm not all caught up. But man, the number of times these people are simply boneheads to keep a plot going through an episode is dramatically increased since season 1-which didn't do that!!

I still enjoy watching my show, but the second act of 'save the future, save the girl' has really just become pondersome.


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Perry on March 20, 2017, 04:21:28 AM
 :)
And you SHOULD enjoy the show, Jimmy and of course I wish everyone that watches it also keeps a higher than not enjoyment level, but yeah, I can't do it anymore. Never think however that I don't envy your (and the millions more that watch the show) ability to find more enjoyment than ire from this.  :D I really want to, but it is just not to be. Flash is just not my cup of tea, even though I have sipped on it for years, tried it cold, added sugar, even some milk. I am more a coffee guy, I guess.
 :D

At least the Flash show, even now, isn't as poorly thought out, put together nor executed as that Marvel/Netflix Iron Flop. Coffee and tea are one thing, but Iron Flop borders on being ipecac
 ;D :D
 :D


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jeff on March 20, 2017, 06:58:44 AM
Looks like I am on the same back schedule as Jimmy.  We just watched the first part of the Grodd episodes.  So far I'm still enjoying it.  HR has even grown on me.


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Jimmy T on April 25, 2017, 06:10:51 PM
episode 16 - Into the Speed Force or When Perry Finally Gave Up (alternative title)

I can do it no longer. It is bad enough struggling through the sophomoric "I love you" dialog and the "I'll go talk to them" actions of every episode, but when
Iris tells Barry that she has changed her mind and wants to be his wife, only to have Barry tell her that they need to take a break
... Yeah, I am officially done.

I am not going through that crap. I have fought this kinda stuff for too long, but now they bring the final "lets all be 15 year old children" action to the table, it is time for me to stand up, push my chair in, bow my head to those still sitting and slowly walk away.

See ya, Barry. You little EDITED
 :P :P :P

PERRY.

Was it the episode of
When Barry goes into the Speed force and sees all the Spirit Victims of Season's past?

Then yeah....F***ING STUPID.

I cannot even comprehend what writer said 'oOoOOOOo...the drama that this scene will drop! I'm so good!' What a damned junk line. I'm really blown away by how insipidly stupid and poor a story decision that was.

Also, I'm guessing this Savitar happens to be another future version of Barry that is pissed off by decisions he's made in the past, and is hoping present Barry can change the future and prevent Savitar Barry from being created. Going with that.

Because in this season, that makes sense.


Title: Re: The Flash - Season 3
Post by: Perry on April 26, 2017, 05:08:54 AM
That sounds smart, Jimmy. That would be very cool in fact.

My only curiosity if that was to be the case ... how would they get Barry to take the name Savitar? I mean originally. Being as that name comes from ... well, hell, where the name comes from ... hahahaha (yes I forgot what nationality or religion the name originates from) how, or more precise ... why, would Barry call himself Savitar in the first place?

For example if the name originates in Egypt (I don't think that is right), Barry has no connection personally that I know of to that location (he isn't a egyption archeologist, say) that would edge him to choose that name. You know what I mean? I know I am doing poorly at conveying myself, as usual
 ;D
Just curious as to how they would have this alternate/future Barry choose the name.

I love the thought and hope they do think about that if they do your great idea
 :)