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Title: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on July 13, 2016, 04:46:49 PM
Rebirth issue.

Thumbs up.  I've been away from Green Lantern long enough that my event fatigue has faded.  This was a good issue and I'm looking forward to picking this up and re-discovering Hal, the Corps, and all things Lantern.


Title: Re: REBIRTH - HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS
Post by: Perry on July 19, 2016, 06:30:05 PM
Agree. Good "Rebirth" issue. About the best one so far IO think as far as getting readers up to speed while also moving the plot forward.

Looking forward to it


Title: Re: REBIRTH - HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS
Post by: Jimmy T on July 20, 2016, 07:43:50 PM
REALLY enjoyed the Rebirth issue! Awesome to see Ethan Van Sciver on his GL boy again, and the issue hit with enough  portents of big, important things to come without seeming like a huge crossover event.

Those were the best times of Geoff Johns run. I hope to see that kind of return...or dare I say....rebirth? ;)


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on September 17, 2016, 08:11:42 PM
Anyone else reading this?

It's one of my top five from Rebirth.  Heck maybe top three. Issue 4 continues to move this story along with some fun Guy Gardner moments.  Sinestro is great in this book.  Hal is great.  John Stewart is great.

Just great series all in all.


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on September 17, 2016, 08:41:38 PM
Anyone else reading this?

Yep and the most recent issue will be my "bed time reading" book tonight ... which will be in about 1 hour.  ;D

Was going to try and finish Doom Patrol, but saw your post and thought -
"Yeah ... I like this book too. Why haven't I read this issue yet?"
 :D


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on September 18, 2016, 08:20:11 AM
Enjoyed the issue, a lot (never been a fan of Guy, but getting to like him more) but there is one ... not even a problem, but ... there is one thing that KINDA bothers me and that is the name of Sinestro's "planet".

Warworld.

I just don't feel it should be called that. It doesn't fit into what Sinestro's motives (his totally wacked motives) or his goals are. War is not something he represents, though it finds him most of the time, but he represents the exact opposite, peace. At least in his mind.

But other than that, I am enjoying this book right there with ya. I will now have to think about where I would place it in the Rebirth rankings and update that thread
 :)


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on October 17, 2016, 10:44:21 AM
Issue #6

Look folks, Jeff has been telling you (or at least me  :D :D :D) how much this title feels like the good ole GL again and this title pushes that point home even further.  "Heroic" Hal Jordan,  "Kiss my ass" Guy Gardner, "Let's do this" John Stewart and "I will rule them all" Sinestro !!! Yep, the gangs all here. And the good thing is, so is the story !!!!

8 outta 10 %'s that just keeps going up!!!!!


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on October 17, 2016, 01:15:59 PM
Oh yeah - when I get time to buy somethings on Comixology I'm catching up on this title first!


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on October 18, 2016, 05:48:44 PM
Issue #6

Look folks, Jeff has been telling you (or at least me  :D :D :D) how much this title feels like the good ole GL again and this title pushes that point home even further.  "Heroic" Hal Jordan,  "Kiss my ass" Guy Gardner, "Let's do this" John Stewart and "I will rule them all" Sinestro !!! Yep, the gangs all here. And the good thing is, so is the story !!!!

8 outta 10 %'s that just keeps going up!!!!!

Definitely on all this.

I, too, am up through issue 6. And I'm all in with this title. Gives me a bit of the feels from back in the prior GL titling of the issues that led up to Sinestro War. Factions are moving about, things are happening, events and characters are closing in on each other, but man, I'M HOOKED.

I know it's Hal versus Thaal one more time-AND I'M SO JAZZED FOR IT!!!  8) ;D

Some great art is being kept up through this arc's rotation. I know it's all super hero suits and fighting, which is something I complain about when there is too much of it in other books (re: Superman, Batman), but here it's all I want! LOL

I may even top Perry's with a 9 GL Oath stanzas out of 10. 


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on October 18, 2016, 07:06:56 PM

I may even top Perry's with a 9 GL Oath stanzas out of 10. 

 ;D
Top away, good sir !!! 9 isn't a bad assessment. Especially 9 Oath stanzas  ;D


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on October 28, 2016, 01:07:59 PM
Issue 7

Man, I love this book.

Great conclusion to this arc and left me wanting more more more!


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on November 04, 2016, 01:03:47 PM
Just found out some very useful, though ultimately way late, information about this title.

In the series Sinestro,  Sinestro was suppose to be old when that series ended.

 Now I am not sure ... as I didn't read Sinestro past issue 4 or so ... if he was going to be old in the series or if he went old and then went back to young before the title ended or what, but he was suppose to be old when that series ended.

Well somewhere in all this, and I am not sure how yet, the Rebirth stuff was moved up or stuff just got lost in the mix, but the Hal Jordan title took off and instead of the DC editorial having shown fans an aged Sinestro in his own title, this Hal story is the first place we see him like that.. It is why at the start of issue one, we were all confused as to why Sinestro was old ... well it wasn't something we missed, it is something they forgot to tell us.

 ;D ;D

They may get around to that later but more than likely, that accident has now been swept under the rug enough to just not bring up again (very likely)

 :D


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on November 04, 2016, 08:00:33 PM
Yeah, they didn't give a direct reason why he was old and decrepit in this volume. You do know it if you read the prior volume of 'Sinestro', but the most they give here was that it was a ruse to lure his daughter into taking control (which they mention in GLC here), and that by refusing with Parallax, he regains his vitality.

But yeah, you don't have a true known reason why or how it happened in these opening pages. Guess I never thought of a new reader coming into that!


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on November 13, 2016, 08:04:07 PM
Damned awesome end of this arc-or near end to the arc!! So looking forward to fall out from this arc!! Great stuff, exciting GL action and mythos.

There will always be a part of me that misses Hal doing earth stuff...but you know what? Hal is done with earth. I really don't believe he wants to go back there to live. Oh sure, to visit and all that. Going home to see everyone is just what servicemen really need, but Hal won't ever bother with the secret I.D. on earth and pretend to carry on with a 'normal' life. Flying the stars is what is his normal.

Superman may be the physiological alien to earth, but Hal is the stranger in a strange land when he's  doing a return to Coast City.


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on December 03, 2016, 09:08:58 AM
Issues #8 and #9

Just A-1 stuff here. Top notch story telling and great art make this book an easy top 5 title. Really impressed all around.
And that ending !!!!

Looking forward to issue #10 now more than ever.

9 outta 10 - cliff hangers
 :)


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on December 04, 2016, 07:47:41 AM
Yeah I think this is my #1 Rebirth title.


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on January 15, 2017, 08:35:01 PM
Read through 10 & 11 I believe.

HA! I love it!
The Emerald Space! And Kyle returning! And Kyle still being mega powerful and needed and important to everything! And Larfleeze!

Damned great title. Loved seeing...Rafa Sandoval on art here too!!


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on January 22, 2017, 12:11:11 PM
#12

Ha! Great fun stuff!!

Loved seen Van Sciver back on art. Although, I thought it was bad form on the Lantern leaders' part to
smash all the collection cylinders, where there could have been more cities held in suspension, like Tomar Tu's!! what if another city suddenly just blew up in that cave space!! Bad thinking there!!! Loved that metro-sexual Lobo was left in space. But I like the way that John and Soranik have turned things on their heads; the two corps working together? I mean, Sinestro's prime group is a hardened group of sadists and murderers. Now they'll be co-workers? Uh, I think I agree with Hal with the statement-

"We're going to do what, now?"


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on January 23, 2017, 01:52:16 PM
Not even looking at that spoiler!!
Haha
Man, I got to catch up.


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on March 15, 2017, 05:43:29 PM
Where are we at with this title? 15 or so? I know this title has me a bit.. blue ...right now, but dammit, I love it!!! I loved the 'future storyline' spread again, and I love that Ethan Van Sciver considers GL his mainstay title to always come back to! Such good reading!!!


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on March 16, 2017, 11:53:31 AM
I think it's up to 16 but I haven't picked up anything since issue 9.  It's still my favorite DC tilte but I have been catching up on things I've already bought and I'm way behind on all of my DC reads.   :(


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS
Post by: Perry on March 25, 2017, 05:32:36 AM
Issue #'s 14, 15, 16 and 17

Ya know, I hate to say this, but I think this is one of those rare comics that read better month to month. Not all at once or even bi-week to bi-week.

I just read four issues straight through and I really had a feeling of "drag". The story didn't hit me with the usual "I am glad I can go right into the next issue" thoughts that I normally have when reading comics back to back. I really wanted to stop after one issue and read something else instead. A feeling that normally happens with poorly written books, which this is not.

Now true, (issue #16) the
fight with Guy and Arkillo
had me rolling my eyes at the absurdity of it all, no way
a human survives that beating, much less has the strength to come back and punch like Superman ... no matter his emotional drive (which was good) but I know, I know ... COMICS!!
but that didn't help my resolve to keep reading.

I also hate the character Kyle Raynor. I didn't 'Back in the day', but (issue #17) having
yet another F'n human Green Lantern just drives me crazy. I mean, what? Four freaking Earth GL's to protect one sector? I get it that the sector gets more attention than most, but does it?
Really?

I do like where the book is going, other than
having way too many humans in green
, and I think this book would be a great monthly read, I am not sure it is worthy of bi-weekly for me any more.
Just too many chances to see way too many GL's from Earth  :D
I hope I can keep up with this as it comes out, or I may just peek in from time to time instead of being a constant reader.

And even though this ended up feeling like a 5 by the time I was done, due to the plot, the dialog and art, I am giving this a ...

7 outta 10 - Dentist agree
 ;)


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on March 25, 2017, 06:28:09 AM
Since I did read it monthly, my thoughts after issue #16 was
why the hell was this happening? Why did Guy feel the need to go mano a mano without a ring? Why the fight to the 'near' death? There was no lead up. Nothing the in past that I can think of having Arkillo treat Guy like his father used to treat him to drive him into such a cold frenzy. I thought this issue was damned stupid, and a horrible blight.

It would have meant something if Guy would have been under some PTSD or horrible emotional strain after being tortured for his fear for 3 issues. Now, if we would have seen Guy pinwheeling through emotions of shame, or resentment, or his typical blind anger, that would have been one thing. But no, it was green ring on and slinging hurt again, all is good!

No, I truly hated this dumb issue. The Guy children flashbacks were out of place with all the narrative of each prior story. What a clunky departure from everything else that had been occurring.



Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on March 25, 2017, 06:46:40 AM
Yeah, I agree with the '[where the hell did the need to do that come from?]' argument.
 :D

The past, while a motivation for Guy's anger in general, made little no sense directed at this certain character. And while I know that sometimes we can take out emotions on the wrong people at times, Guy went directly to, went looking for, this particular character like the guy looked like his father or something.

Now the only thing that would made sense, and maybe I missed it or missed the part that leaded up to it, would be if Guy was recently having those anger issues over the abuse he suffered early by his father, wanted to retaliate, to release the aggression towards anyone of strength (or the idea of) and knew this guy was the "big bad tough one" so he decided to go get him. Maybe they showed that thinking earlier (as, like you stated, Guy was held against his will for a time in earlier issues) and I just missed that leading to this?

If not ... no idea
 :-\


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on March 26, 2017, 06:25:36 AM
Issues #8 and #9

Just A-1 stuff here. Top notch story telling and great art make this book an easy top 5 title. Really impressed all around.
And that ending !!!!

Looking forward to issue #10 now more than ever.

9 outta 10 - cliff hangers
 :)

Your at the same spot I am.  So tempted to buy issues 10-17 and get caught up.  It will definitely be my first group when I'm ready to binge on my DC titles.


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on March 26, 2017, 07:25:22 AM
Issues #8 and #9

Just A-1 stuff here. Top notch story telling and great art make this book an easy top 5 title. Really impressed all around.
And that ending !!!!

Looking forward to issue #10 now more than ever.

9 outta 10 - cliff hangers
 :)

Your at the same spot I am.  So tempted to buy issues 10-17 and get caught up.  It will definitely be my first group when I'm ready to binge on my DC titles.

Well, I would buy issue to issue unless you get a great deal. The book is still okay, but not as powerful as it once was. The only real question ... is the reason I now lack exaltation because I read so many (4) issues in a row and got tired of it, or was there a drop in my enthusiasm because the writing?
 :-\


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on March 26, 2017, 08:50:49 AM
I'm gonna say because you read so many in a row.

However, with the big bombshell ending, and Soranik and John's plans....it seems to be in this weird sleeper lull until 'what next?' hits. Not that it's bad! But it's kind of like (for those who enjoy it) the fuel stop in a Nascar race. Or waiting for the guy on the free throw line to retie both his shoes. Or for Rafael Nadal to wipe both his arms 3 times, then his face twice, then his left arm twice again.

Just get onto the next thing. This book is high octane action and big story plot drops!! We need more, not another time out before the field goal attempt!!

 :D


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on March 26, 2017, 10:33:29 AM
Yeah, it isn't "bad", it just doesn't hit me like before.
But I suppose that happens with them all from time to time
 :)


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on March 27, 2017, 08:28:21 AM
Or for Rafael Nadal to wipe both his arms 3 times, then his face twice, then his left arm twice again.

OMG - I actually got this reference.  Dang wife and her Tennis channel.   :D


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on March 27, 2017, 09:40:31 AM
Or for Rafael Nadal to wipe both his arms 3 times, then his face twice, then his left arm twice again.

OMG - I actually got this reference.  Dang wife and her Tennis channel.   :D

 :D

Tennis channel?
Wow, didn't even know they had that. I was aware of Golf, but not Tennis. But then again, I haven't watched tennis since the Wimbledon were Agasi wore all white for the first time. However, I was an Ivan Lendl man back in the day and really enjoyed seeing the decline of "The Screamer"
 :D


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on June 06, 2017, 08:02:53 PM
Issue 21's ending that
That Sarko is Kyle and Soranik's son? Damn, I want that explore in some many ways, in so many manners,
 in a different book where loudmouth Hal can take a backseat so we can watch Kyle try to wrestle with that one. I mean,
 yeah, this book was drawn by a 90s style fill in artist (which I far more prefer to what Marvel is doing with 'main stay artists'

And also, not to forget, but was that Tomar Re hiding in fear from the attack? Hmm....

Hmm...I think I may reread this arc (ha! RIGHT I GOT THAT TIME) because I want the full impact of this story arc to resonate with me.

Cool stuff.


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on July 09, 2017, 02:59:43 PM
Well I am way behind again on my Hal reading, mainly on purpose as I do like to read this in large chunks (even though last time I didn't enjoy it that much)  :D, but after reading the latest Batman issue I saw the cover to Hal #26, start of the Fall of the Gods arc and it looks sweet so I am jumping back into this title now in preparation.

Cracking open issue #18 now.


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on July 09, 2017, 07:54:48 PM
I just finished 11, 12, & 13 so I'm behind but more caught up here than any other DC.

Love the book still and interesting tale having Larfleeze controlling Brainiac.


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on July 10, 2017, 02:15:48 AM
I just finished 11, 12, & 13 so I'm behind but more caught up here than any other DC.

And that is saying something. Shame DC decided to no longer reduce the price of their digital comics as I know you used to keep up more closely when they had that dollar savings. But if people are buying at that ridiculous digital price of "same as print", I can't blame DC for eliminating the savings. I can blame the people paying that much though.
 :D

I can also blame DC for not having a MU type of digital offering. Man I wish they would hurry up and do that so I can go all subscription based digital. I will even put up with Marvel's reader to make it easier for me in the long run.

Love the book still and interesting tale having Larfleeze controlling Brainiac.

And boy was he P.O.d about that  :D


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on July 10, 2017, 07:17:44 AM

And that is saying something. Shame DC decided to no longer reduce the price of their digital comics as I know you used to keep up more closely when they had that dollar savings. But if people are buying at that ridiculous digital price of "same as print", I can't blame DC for eliminating the savings. I can blame the people paying that much though.
 :D

I can also blame DC for not having a MU type of digital offering. Man I wish they would hurry up and do that so I can go all subscription based digital. I will even put up with Marvel's reader to make it easier for me in the long run.


What's even crazier is if you wait for one of the digital trades, the price of the trade divided by the number of issues it collects comes out to about $1.99 per issue.  Why not go ahead and drop that price earlier?  Makes no sense to me.


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on July 10, 2017, 08:47:44 AM
What's even crazier is if you wait for one of the digital trades, the price of the trade divided by the number of issues it collects comes out to about $1.99 per issue.  Why not go ahead and drop that price earlier?  Makes no sense to me.

Right?
But hey, with most of DC's best hitting that bi-weekly schedule, at least it only takes about a month and a half for you to get the trades you are wanting to read.  :D

Of course Aquaman just went monthly, as did Deathstroke, and both of those titles are at pretty significant arcs so that sucks, price wise.


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on July 10, 2017, 12:54:42 PM
Issue 21's ending ...

But did we need that last page?
It was pretty damn obvious earlier when the thing targeting both he and you know who and then showed us the "family tree" what the deal was, but having "him" cry on the last page?  Is that what Kyle would have done? Cry with his head in his hands? I personally hated that ending.

And I hated the art. Like a cheap Pat Broderick.   ;)


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on July 10, 2017, 06:22:27 PM
Issue 21's ending ...

But did we need that last page?
It was pretty damn obvious earlier when the thing targeting both he and you know who and then showed us the "family tree" what the deal was, but having "him" cry on the last page?  Is that what Kyle would have done? Cry with his head in his hands? I personally hated that ending.

And I hated the art. Like a cheap Pat Broderick.   ;)

Maybe...

Realizing that maybe you get the girl you want, maybe you somehow start a family...and that child gets killed?
 I know the story and writing hasn't always met that gravitas, and Moore, or Ennis, or Ellis, or Morrison could have stamped it in better, but still...I don't know. I can believe Kyle would cry. To know something, and then have it snatched away before you could act on it? I could be talking the child, I could be talking about how he feels about her, and him wondering if he even could or should pursue her. To not have the love you want in your life? I'd cry over that too.

But I cry alot these days. Honest. Fatherhood has done that to me. Damn you Disney movies!!


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on July 11, 2017, 03:24:08 AM
True. that could be it.  :)

But I think he would be happy to know they got together in the future more than feeling sad for someone he lost as, more importantly, he has to know how this "super-hero" stuff works and the future is merely a possibility. The fact he got with her and had the child would bring a sense of joy, to me I think. Maybe a tad sad by the possibility of losing a child he has yet to meet, but not flat out balling like that. Again, in my opinion. But maybe you got it right.  :)

I am actually wondering if it was an artist going a little too far with his interpretation of the script

"final page - we see Kyle sitting sadly in contemplation of the family he could have had"


Maybe?


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on July 11, 2017, 07:18:11 PM
Possibly/maybe.

Want to know something that really rang with me?

Now, this isn't saying you are insensitive, or a clod, or a jerk, or any such thing. Perhaps you remember with my past that my wife has had 2 miscarriages. So, your line of 'Maybe a tad sad by the possibility of losing a child he has yet to meet, but not flat out balling like that' kinda slammed home real quick. Just highlights where everyone can come from.

So, yeah, maybe Kyle is really sensitive. Or they over wrote/overdid the scene, too.  8)

To be honest, I was more excited about the ramifications and the 'what ifs' opposed to how I actually thought of the presented last page panel.  ;)



Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on July 11, 2017, 07:35:14 PM
I wish I could read these spoilers.   ;D


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on July 12, 2017, 03:44:41 AM
Want to know something that really rang with me?

And you are right, I did forget about that.  :( Of course taking that into consideration your POV on that last page is, of course, much more personal and powerful for you. You see it in a very different light. And I am both happy and sad about that. Sad because well, it is sad, of course, but happy about it because anytime a form of art hits you emotionally it is, to me, a great thing. (Please, I hope you understand what I mean by that)

So yes, I do understand why YOU took that page the way YOU did (and I REALLY should have understood that from the get go ... sorry I did not :'(), I still don't think that it shows true to what this particular character would feel/do.

I hope you can see what I mean. I do know and understand completely how it is hard for someone in a situation as close to that to separate their own thoughts and feelings and I see how you got to the point of relating, but I just still feel it was ... well ... off.

But yeah, I get ya, truly. And thanks for reminding me ... not only because I should have remembered (damn it, I should have) but to further understand your point and to see the page a tad differently, even it it is not the one I agree with.
 :-\

I wish I could read these spoilers.   ;D

Wait for it, man. Wait for it. The digital trade is not too far away.

We'll still be here.
 :)


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on July 12, 2017, 05:03:46 PM
Perry, nothing but two thumbs up and a wink and a nod of approval from me. I understand it all, and I get everything you're saying. There's no harm there's no foul all is right in the world. :-*


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on July 13, 2017, 02:06:05 AM
 :-* :-* :-*
Right back atcha big guy
 :)


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on July 17, 2017, 10:56:59 AM
Just finished issues #23 and #24 and ... damn I just hate Kyle.

I know at one point in the past I used to like him. I know it as I remember it (as much as I remember anything these days  :D) but now, today, over the last two years or so, I have just not been able to stomach this guy. I hated him as a Whiny White Lantern and I hate him now as a jejune jade one as well. I have no idea why he has changed so much but I am just not getting this character now.

I mean that as no offense to anyone that does, for any reason, but this is not the Kyle Raynor I used to know.

Or maybe I am just remembering it wrong? My memory should be held into question as I did totally forget what Tomr-Tu did until these two issues.
 :D
And that saved the reading for me, to be honest.

Still, excited for the next issue though I hope the change is not too soon a'coming.
 ;)


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on July 17, 2017, 11:26:50 AM
... damn I just hate Kyle.

I liked him in Omega Men.  Maybe we should resurrect that series?


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on July 17, 2017, 11:53:26 AM
I know since Hal came back years ago, they had to make Kyle less Hal - like, which kind of took away some of his bark and bite. When I get there Perry, I'll let you know my thoughts!


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on July 17, 2017, 01:22:31 PM
... damn I just hate Kyle.

I liked him in Omega Men.  Maybe we should resurrect that series?

I had just started to (from Omega Men thread) ...
I had a couple issues,. well one, I had one issue with where Mr. King took one of DC's characters, but at the same time, I can also respect that what he did was make this character mean something. And that is something that this character has not seemed to persuade this reader to think in some time. This particular character is about as redundant as anything in comics now anyway. So taking this character to this new level did some good, I feel. Maybe not now, but in the long run, at least in my eyes.

Yet it isn't what I see here at all and in-fact just ... oh it's sound like Black Beard time = ARRRGGGHHHH
 :D

 >:( :-\

When I get there Perry, I'll let you know my thoughts!

 8) 8) 8) :) :) :)


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on July 29, 2017, 11:22:08 AM
Just finished issues #23 and #24 and ... damn I just hate Kyle.

I know at one point in the past I used to like him. I know it as I remember it (as much as I remember anything these days  :D) but now, today, over the last two years or so, I have just not been able to stomach this guy. I hated him as a Whiny White Lantern and I hate him now as a jejune jade one as well. I have no idea why he has changed so much but I am just not getting this character now.

I mean that as no offense to anyone that does, for any reason, but this is not the Kyle Raynor I used to know.

Or maybe I am just remembering it wrong? My memory should be held into question as I did totally forget what Tomr-Tu did until these two issues.
 :D
And that saved the reading for me, to be honest.

Still, excited for the next issue though I hope the change is not too soon a'coming.
 ;)


About this, then onto #25 SPOILERS

wHAT THE HELL IS THIS?!!

Sorry, but I feel like Venditti shit the bed on this. Should Kyle have gone sooner to Soranik to discuss or say something? Sure, but human error, second guessing yourself, all those things occur. Stringing out the writing to create the event that makes Soranik go mad.

I mean SERIOUSLY SHE WENT F***IN' MAD! INSANE!!

This was NOT good writing. Angry as all hell, betrayed, whatever, but to flip a 180 degree switch to declare you are going back to the murderous ways of Sinestro's leadership, WHAT THE HELL? WHY would Soranik do that?WHY?

That does not follow under anything we've seen her do over the course of the last 3-4 years of writing, while being under Sinestro's thumb, as a Green aiding Yellow, as a Yellow thwarting her father, as a Yellow leading and changing all to her cause.

This was bullshit dumb. I hated issue 25. The stuff with Tomar; all good with that, his mistakes, the event of it. Hell, even the 'green impurity' caught me offguard, but hey, Jon's a forward thinker.

But everything involving Soranik sullied this issue, this arc, and the building foundation over the past year as her as a leader that converted the Fear Corps.

Terrible. Just terrible.


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on July 31, 2017, 02:58:09 AM


 #25 SPOILERS

wHAT THE HELL IS THIS?!!

Sorry, but I feel like Venditti shit the bed on this. Should Kyle have gone sooner to Soranik to discuss or say something? Sure, but human error, second guessing yourself, all those things occur. Stringing out the writing to create the event that makes Soranik go mad.

I mean SERIOUSLY SHE WENT F***IN' MAD! INSANE!!

This was NOT good writing. Angry as all hell, betrayed, whatever, but to flip a 180 degree switch to declare you are going back to the murderous ways of Sinestro's leadership, WHAT THE HELL? WHY would Soranik do that?WHY?

That does not follow under anything we've seen her do over the course of the last 3-4 years of writing, while being under Sinestro's thumb, as a Green aiding Yellow, as a Yellow thwarting her father, as a Yellow leading and changing all to her cause.

This was bullshit dumb. I hated issue 25. The stuff with Tomar; all good with that, his mistakes, the event of it. Hell, even the 'green impurity' caught me offguard, but hey, Jon's a forward thinker.

But everything involving Soranik sullied this issue, this arc, and the building foundation over the past year as her as a leader that converted the Fear Corps.

Terrible. Just terrible.

So much here that I agree with. Totally, well, shocked in a way that, man, just hard to express.

This was so poorly done. Her 'flip' makes no sense in the time frame we are dealing with here nor the base reasoning. Oh sure, they could have made it a little easier to digest by having a mental implant by Sinestro that somehow triggers this bullshit decision when she feels the slightest fear or something along those lines or ... hell ... SOMETHING!!! BUt there is just no reason, okay, I don't want to so "no reason" but ... come on.
 >:(
And Ark, damn it, was hoping he would stay, but at least he was written in the proper light, just wish someone else was as well. Now I have two Lanterns that really irk the hell out of me, so ... yeah, there's that.

Art was good. And I liked the resolution of how that new spot on the corps will be filled and the alien race filling it, but that is the only reason this is getting the points it is getting.

3 outta 10 - plots that go into a sideways skid.
 :-\


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on August 11, 2017, 05:16:40 AM
... damn I just hate Kyle.

I liked him in Omega Men.  Maybe we should resurrect that series?

I had just started to (from Omega Men thread) ...
I had a couple issues,. well one, I had one issue with where Mr. King took one of DC's characters, but at the same time, I can also respect that what he did was make this character mean something. And that is something that this character has not seemed to persuade this reader to think in some time. This particular character is about as redundant as anything in comics now anyway. So taking this character to this new level did some good, I feel. Maybe not now, but in the long run, at least in my eyes.

Yet it isn't what I see here at all and in-fact just ... oh it's sound like Black Beard time = ARRRGGGHHHH
 :D

 >:( :-\


Just finished issue 19 and I see why your saying this. 
Changing Kyle back to a Green Lantern was a bad idea.  And he seems to have devolved with the change.  They had him heading in the right direction and blew it.  >:(


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on August 11, 2017, 06:43:05 AM
just wait ...
 :-\


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on August 11, 2017, 06:46:30 PM
Man, I can't wait for Jeff to get to 25!!!!!


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on August 12, 2017, 03:12:11 AM
Man, I can't wait for Jeff to get to 25!!!!!

 :D

That's almost mean.

 :D :D :D


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on August 12, 2017, 06:23:29 AM
Finished 20 & 21.

I love me a good time travel tale and I like the twist of the villains identity.  But I didn't like
weepy Kyle.  I would expect a reaction but not crying over someone you just met who may or not come to exist.


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on August 12, 2017, 07:05:08 AM
Finished 22 & 23.  Yes!  This is why I love this book.  Fracture storyline is starting off with a bang.

Gotta breakdown and buy 24 & 25 even though I'm over my budget for the week!  Gonna finish this story today!


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on August 12, 2017, 08:08:35 AM
Finished 24 & 25.

So here is my conundrum.  I completely agree with you guys on the WTF moment.  And yet, I still enjoyed this issue.

I agree - out of character - makes absolutely NO sense. And I don't like that they did that. In fact, I hate it because that's one of my favorite characters.

If that had been any other character then the decision could make sense and everything else that happened because of it was awesome.   :-\

Sucks. I'd like to give the issue high marks but the blatant disregard for a characters core belief system for no real reason is bad. It taints all the greatness surrounding it.   Anger towards the person that omitted the truth - absolutely.  Abandoning everything they've lived and built for? No.

On the upside I guess...

She'll make for one hell of an adversary and hopefully the eventual redemption story will be good.  But I hate predictable plot lines.


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on August 12, 2017, 10:33:03 AM
Finished 24 & 25.

.....
Sucks. I'd like to give the issue high marks but the blatant disregard for a characters core belief system for no real reason is bad. It taints all the greatness surrounding it.   Anger towards the person that omitted the truth - absolutely.  Abandoning everything they've lived and built for? No.

On the upside I guess...

She'll make for one hell of an adversary and hopefully the eventual redemption story will be good.  But I hate predictable plot lines.

All of those points, I support and echo 1000%.

But predictable plot lines just make the result obnoxious.


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on August 24, 2017, 06:45:38 PM
#26

Won't lie, probably because I was pissy about 25, I looked for things to be cranky about.

Hal and Kyle's conversation? I found it to be trite and awful, even a bit condescendingly simple. "oh you artist types' and oh you plane jockeys. Whatever.  ::)

At least Orion was awesome and condescending to them as well.


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on January 17, 2018, 08:37:53 PM
This book is...fizzling a bit for me. I can't put my finger on why, however, and that bugs me more than how I feel towards the actual product.  ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on January 18, 2018, 12:14:49 PM
This book is...fizzling a bit for me. I can't put my finger on why, however, and that bugs me more than how I feel towards the actual product.  ??? ??? ???

I'm right there with you Jimmy.  It might be that without the Sinestro Corps in the story to spice things up it's getting blah?


Title: Re: HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on January 18, 2018, 01:55:49 PM
Just got through a few issues.

I think the problem is that Vendetti is taking 6 issues to tell 3 issue stories. Talk about padding!

Just ... Think I am off again for awhile, but man, I may come back if
the Darkstars are not only coming back but are worked in more and more starting next arc. Once again, I was out of comics when they were around and I know nothing really about them other than they looked kinda cool back then. And they still do here.
 ;D