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Title: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on June 14, 2016, 05:34:03 PM
Titans Rebirth #1

I just heard that we should read Justice League #51, also out tomorrow, before reading this issue.

I am not sure how much importance there is to that, but I was told the last page has a reveal that ... I don't know ... something.
 ;D


Title: Re: REBIRTH - TITANS
Post by: Jeff on June 14, 2016, 08:01:34 PM
Thanks for the heads up.  My JL issue 50 arrives Friday and 51 is supposed to be my first digital issue.  As much as it pains me to wait to read Titans I will try.


Title: Re: REBIRTH - TITANS
Post by: Perry on June 15, 2016, 10:49:51 AM
Okay, Looks like I now have to get the back side of my hand sore from slapping the hell out of a certain person that told me I "need to read Justice League #52 before reading the Titans Rebirth issue".

There was a nice end to the issue that is nice/sweet for Titans fans, and an interesting idea for the future, but ... no ... this was not necessary at all as far as I can see. Of course maybe after I read the Titans Rebirth issue I will think differently, but ...
Yeah.

*warming up my backhand*

 :D

 


Title: Re: REBIRTH - TITANS
Post by: Jeff on June 15, 2016, 11:27:10 AM
Hmmmmmm.  In that case........


Title: Re: REBIRTH - TITANS
Post by: Perry on June 15, 2016, 04:46:49 PM
It was ... okay. Typical Rebirth or sero issue. Nothing really here at all.

Really saddened. Between the hype around Justice League I was expecting, of which I received jack shit, and this issue being what it was (or wasn't) well, I will just put my eyes towards issue one and step quietly away from this weeks Titans offering.

4 outta 10 shouts of "I miss Wally in the yellow costume!!!"
 :-\


Title: Re: REBIRTH - TITANS
Post by: Jeff on June 15, 2016, 08:21:20 PM
It was ... okay. Typical Rebirth or sero issue. Nothing really here at all.

Really saddened. Between the hype around Justice League I was expecting, of which I received jack shit, and this issue being what it was (or wasn't) well, I will just put my eyes towards issue one and step quietly away from this weeks Titans offering.

4 outta 10 shouts of "I miss Wally in the yellow costume!!!"
 :-\

Damn.   :-\


Title: Re: REBIRTH - TITANS
Post by: Jimmy T on June 19, 2016, 05:53:14 AM
As this is my first Rebirth thread, but I've read most of my Rebirth issues, I would say that the Rebirth issue is nearly a typical introductory new-status-quo type issue.

Were other issues done better? Yes.

But other issues didn't have to deal with Wally coming back or resetting the Titans current story either.

But at least Wally is amongst friends again! Not sure of his costume. Flashes are so much better without convuluted costumes, and those seam lines for seam lines sake bug the utter piss out of me. I wish Barry's were gone! ! !, but alas, Rebirth doesn't fix everything it seems.


Title: Re: REBIRTH - TITANS
Post by: Jeff on June 19, 2016, 07:02:42 AM
I liked it better be Han Perry did.  My expectations were low though based on Abnetts Justice League 51 story.  I see potential here and am hoping it trends upward.


Title: Re: REBIRTH - TITANS
Post by: Perry on June 19, 2016, 09:20:36 AM
I liked it better be Han Perry did. 

Going back over some of my typos (rushing mistakes / drug induced spelling errors / wrong past/present tense) that I have seen myself make over the past three weeks in-particular ... with such phrases as

I guys I mean to say that I get the reasoning behind ...

 it is nice to see I am not alone. Yeah, not "I guess I mean to say", but "I GUYS I mean to say". Man, I have seen a lot of that kinda writing from me lately. Not sure what is going on with that!
 :-\

But anyway, yes, you liked it "better be Han Perry"

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: REBIRTH - TITANS
Post by: Jeff on June 19, 2016, 10:29:54 AM
I liked it better be Han Perry did. 

Going back over some of my typos (rushing mistakes / drug induced spelling errors / wrong past/present tense) that I have seen myself make over the past three weeks in-particular ... with such phrases as

I guys I mean to say that I get the reasoning behind ...

 it is nice to see I am not alone. Yeah, not "I guess I mean to say", but "I GUYS I mean to say". Man, I have seen a lot of that kinda writing from me lately. Not sure what is going on with that!
 :-\

But anyway, yes, you liked it "better be Han Perry"

 ;D ;D


Damn iPad autocorrect!  That's what I'm sticking with.

Should have been "I liked it better THAN Perry did."!!!


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on August 15, 2016, 07:04:30 PM
Issue 1

...was okay. I have a hankering to fill out my bookshelves with the Wolfman/Perez Titans trades that have all been re-released. That may help me become enamored of this group. I'm here for Wally, more than anything. Well, watching Wally and Dick together.

I wonder, for Titans lovers; is it hard or sad to not see Cyborg here?


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on August 16, 2016, 06:06:33 AM
I wonder, for Titans lovers; is it hard or sad to not see Cyborg here?

Absolutely. Both hard and sad, in a way. I know the other non-New Teen Titans members from the actual Teen Titans early days but I don't KNOW them because I have not read too many of those older TT issues. But I understand that DC is taking this back to the old days. I mean I miss and it is both hard and sad not to see Garth, Kory and Raven along side the rest of the NEW Teen Titans crew, but this isn't about that crew, sadly.
 :-\

I still don't like Cyborg in the JL. And while I understand the reasoning by DC, I still see him as part of the "Titans" core and don't really like him away from that. But honestly, I think the main reason for my distaste is the way DC has made this cyborg so damn powerful. I miss the arm cannon add-on ability and computer connectivity aspects of Cyborg, but this uber powerful, transport ability Cyborg is just not the character I know. Too damn powerful. It is like they gave Batman the ability to fly. Just totally ruining the character in my eyes.

But I will live
 :D


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on August 16, 2016, 11:24:55 AM
I agree with you guys.  I'm not a 70's Teen Titans guy, I'm an 80's Titans guy.  I'm sure I'll live but I was hoping for the Wolfman/Perez characters here.


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Gay Titan on August 18, 2016, 05:11:29 AM

I wonder, for Titans lovers; is it hard or sad to not see Cyborg here?

Yes!!! And we got Lilith in trade (which sucks).


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on October 18, 2016, 05:51:13 PM
Through Titans #3

Dammit Perry, now it's all I see~

Booth's damned panelling.

Now, I saw it before, and mostly could ignore it. Sometimes it showed great speed of movement of action, leading the eye, or bringing chaos to a scene and page to really make it blow up.

But the shattering of panels falling away during EVERY discussion just wore me down. Ugh.

I'm...okay with liking this title. Glad it's not twice monthly. But I really want to like it as it has some young classic figures back together ~and WALLY trying to fix the world! I want to see him fix the world!!!

Go, Wally GO!!


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on October 30, 2016, 06:59:28 AM
Dammit Perry, now it's all I see~

Booth's damned panelling.!

 :D Sorry, buddy.

ISSUE #4

(With possible slight spoilers outside of the spoiler banner) !!!!

Ya know, maybe I am just over the whole"flash" thing in general? during the first part of this issue I kept asking myself,
how can the fastest man alive, or in this case a version of him  ;D, not be able to just grab a magician? When Abra Kadabra kept jumping from one said of the roof to the other, I just kept saying to myself "Can't Wally grab him in time?" Now, I say that now as a true question. Are the Flashs' susceptible to magic in the manner? Does the speed force not work when a wizard type of bad guy uses spells or the like?

I only ask because at the end of the issue it sure seemed like Wally had no fear of that being an issue?

I don't know, that bugged me is all. The panel structure still doesn't help, but ... look, if this was Quicksilver or some other fast but nowhere near as Flash-Fast speedster, this would be easier to understand, but when your hero's power is SUPER speed? Like faster than light speed??

Still not a fan of Abnett's dialog here either, so I think I am done for now. Sadly. I so wanted to enjoy this.

5 outta 10 - average comic scores for average comic speed.
 :-\


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on October 30, 2016, 10:28:38 AM
At the very least I'm going to get the next issue to see how this arc ends.  And I'll give Abnett one more arc in hopes it gets better.

Like Titans Hunt, this villain is lame. And I think, like Perry, he should be easier to beat.


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on November 13, 2016, 08:10:53 PM
Issue #4

Okay stuff. But nothing that is making me a Titans fan. I mean, it's a good plan of Kadabra to ruin and end Wally, and for that I enjoy the title, but I have no real affection to the title as a whole.


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on November 26, 2016, 08:05:06 AM
Issue #5

What can I say? I liked this more than any other issue and I think it is purely because of what I just learned (see my latest post in the "Flash thread"  ;))

This book still has problems, but the panel layout, that usually distracting panel layout, didn't bother me as much this issue as I think it was used to better effect. It actually guided us through this time instead of being a jarring "LOOK HOW DIFFERENT I AM!" look.

The writing also seemed a tad better here than in past issues, but it couldn't have been too different than before so I am not sure what that means.
 ;D

I am also still not a fan of this villain, but I can respect Abnett's reasoning for using him, the history, but man will I be glad to move on.

Also, is that tattoo that Roy has on his left (?) arm the same one that Gen13's Grunge has on his chest? It looked familiar in that one panel, though all you can see is the wings. I haven't gone back to check for a better view, but ... if DC plans to incorporate the Wildstorm Universe a little less overtly this time around, this could be a clue to something. Or ... or it is nothing at all.
 :D

Haha, but yes, getting back to it, this is still a better issue than those that have gone before it, regardless of the reasons why.

7 outta 10 - things that pique my interest
 :)


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on January 04, 2017, 04:39:35 AM
Issue #6

Aaaaand I'm done.

No, I know I will try one more issue, but this is just ... bland ass story telling.

And those damn panels !!!!!!
 >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on January 15, 2017, 08:38:57 PM
Right, Perry?

It's just bland. Although the
dream sequence Speedforce convo with Linda of old almost really did seal the deal with me for really enjoying this book.

I think for me, it's more that I don't believe that these characters are great, long standing friends. Sure, we've been told it, and we've seen the words said stating the fact, but I don't believe it.

Perhaps it's Booth. He lacks a certain...compassion with his pencils, I think. All I can see is his exaggerated expressions, and they look the same on each character to me. I've always kind of thought his pencils were all...'flash' and no depth, tbh.


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on January 16, 2017, 08:12:54 AM
Ok.  You've finally convinced me.  I've only bought and read up to issue 4.  No sense spending money on something I won't enjoy when there are so many others I love that I haven't bought yet.


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on January 22, 2017, 12:08:15 PM
I had to read issue 7. It's the original Superman that actually remembers all of Wally West's 'real' life. So, I had to get it for that. And Lee Weeks on art! Cool to see him about and around!

But I think I'm just going to pass on this title now. It just doesn't do...enough for me.


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on January 23, 2017, 01:51:45 PM
Yep, Lee Weeks was the reason I was going to throw all my feelings aside and try this once again.
Wish I wouldn't have read your post now all of a sudden however ...
 :D
Just kidding. I will still try and wipe the slate clean and try the issue, but doesn't sound like I will be back for long.


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on March 26, 2017, 08:51:28 AM
I see that two...two?..two issues have come out since I stopped picking this up.

I don't miss it at all.

Nuts.  :-[


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on September 06, 2017, 05:44:30 AM
I read up through Lazarus Contract.  It did get better with the Fearsome Five arc and the Superman/Flash reunion.  However the Lazarus Contract lost me as a reader for this book.

It was always just on the verge of being good but never makes it across.  If they ever start to explain what happened to Wally I might come back but for now it's off the list.


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on September 06, 2017, 05:56:10 AM
  If they ever start to explain what happened to Wally I might come back but for now it's off the list.


And that's the only reason I was reading it in the first place.


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on September 06, 2017, 06:16:01 AM
If they ever get rid of Brett Booth I will gladly give it another try (see Aquaman)  ;D


Title: Re: TITANS - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on September 06, 2017, 07:02:51 AM
  If they ever start to explain what happened to Wally I might come back but for now it's off the list.


And that's the only reason I was reading it in the first place.

Yeah Jimmy, same here.   :-\