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Title: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on June 01, 2016, 09:33:12 PM
Not bad.  My interest is actually peeked enough to pick up Tomasi's first arc.


Title: Re: REBIRTH - SUPERMAN
Post by: Jeff on June 15, 2016, 02:50:30 PM
Superman #1

LOVED LOVED LOVED this issue.  Plain, simple but a great look at the new normal for Superman.  Clark as a father is going to be fun to read (maybe even Perry will be interested).

My favorite panel...

(http://www.herorealm.com/images/dadsupes.JPG)


And then I loved seeing....

Clark telling his boy to go to his room.  Man I know how that is with my own kid!

But the story itself sets up some interesting lessons as...
Jon starts learning about his powers.  And in a tragic, sad way.

Great characterization here and I hope it continues.  I'm adding this to my pull which I was not expecting.


Title: Re: REBIRTH - SUPERMAN
Post by: Perry on June 15, 2016, 04:42:20 PM
Superman #1

...  (maybe even Perry will be interested).

I would be, but I just can't deal with that Gleason face art. If DC couldn't keep me on Green Lantern Corps because of his art I don't think they will get me on Superman  ;D. Heck, if DC couldn't keep me on a Batman book because of Gleason's faces, I really doubt they could pull me into Superman.  ;D

I love every other aspect about his art, but those faces, especially those mouths  :-\ ... it is just not for me.

I may try again, but I think I have a better shot at being an "Action Comics" reader than a Superman one as long as Gleason is the penciler. I can't even picture what Lois will look like.
 :o


Title: Re: REBIRTH - SUPERMAN
Post by: Jimmy T on June 19, 2016, 05:55:50 AM
I've never had a problem with Gleason art. Hell, I even enjoy it! He's got such energy to his figures, like an expression of movement that he mirrors in the faces.

At least, that's what I liked 5 years ago (particularly in his Aquaman Sub Diego time). I never read BAtman and Robin, so I don't know how he's changed or altered.

But I think the Rebirth was off to a great start! I'm excited and hopeful for Superman again!!


Title: Re: REBIRTH - SUPERMAN
Post by: Perry on June 19, 2016, 09:13:54 AM
His art, as far as presentation, action, storytelling, etc is fine. Its just those faces ... or mouth area more precisely. I may try Superman to see if I can get over it, but it has really killed a few titles for me already, so ...
 :-[


Title: Re: REBIRTH - SUPERMAN
Post by: Jeff on June 19, 2016, 10:33:35 AM
I can see what you mean by the faces.  The eyes are too big for my taste, although I didn't really notice until you brought it up.   :D


Title: Re: REBIRTH - SUPERMAN
Post by: Perry on June 21, 2016, 03:15:46 PM
I can see what you mean by the faces.  The eyes are too big for my taste, although I didn't really notice until you brought it up.   :D

Yeah, sometimes (mostly I guess) his eyes are wacked out, but the most aggravating thing, and he doesn't do it all the time, is when the characters mouths just seem to go from ear to ear. Really disconcerting
 ;D

But, I went ahead and read this at one of the LCS around here (while trying to stop arguing with some young, Marvel fans/dip wads) and yeah, I liked it. I am not sure I like the coloring, people kept changing skin tone and that was really weird to me, but other than that, and of course the art (which honestly wasn't that harsh to my eyes this time) I really did like this book. I really liked the way Jonathan
blew his cat away!!
:D :D
Yeah! Take that, damn you!!! I know it was an accident and it was an important thing to happen to our young Jonathan, but man did I laugh
 :D

And now, I am thinking I may go ahead and look into the "Super-Sons" title when it hits. At least check it out. I like Damien and this new kid ... he might have something.
 :)

7 outta 10 Asian Bar-B-Ques
 ;)
 :D :D :D :D :D

(Yes that is a bad racially, stereotypical joke, but damn I am tired of all this thin skin that's been going around for the past few years now. I treat people well and with plenty of respect for their race, religion, sex and sexual orientation and countless others things, but this lack of making jokes because someone will get "hurt" ... tired of it. TIRED OF IT!!! I am Italian/Irish, if you want to call me a WOP, joke me about potatoes or talk about greasy hair I swear I will not be offended. I will just laugh right with you. Whatever happened to that shit? Whatever happened to laughing? Holy crap how did I get on this road. I'm sorry for the rant, guys.  :D :D)


Title: Re: REBIRTH - SUPERMAN
Post by: Jeff on June 22, 2016, 06:04:37 PM

And now, I am thinking I may go ahead and look into the "Super-Sons" title when it hits. At least check it out. I like Damien and this new kid ... he might have something.
 :)

Yes, I'm going to pick that up to.  It's got some interesting potential.


7 outta 10 Asian Bar-B-Ques
 ;)
 :D :D :D :D :D

(Yes that is a bad racially, stereotypical joke, but damn I am tired of all this thin skin that's been going around for the past few years now. I treat people well and with plenty of respect for their race, religion, sex and sexual orientation and countless others things, but this lack of making jokes because someone will get "hurt" ... tired of it. TIRED OF IT!!! I am Italian/Irish, if you want to call me a WOP, joke me about potatoes or talk about greasy hair I swear I will not be offended. I will just laugh right with you. Whatever happened to that shit? Whatever happened to laughing? Holy crap how did I get on this road. I'm sorry for the rant, guys.  :D :D)

Really? You had to explain it?  It was funny on its own.  Like my college roommate used to say to me; "Jeffro, F*ck 'em if they can't take a joke."   ;D


Title: Re: REBIRTH - SUPERMAN
Post by: Perry on June 23, 2016, 07:47:51 AM
 :D


Title: Re: REBIRTH - SUPERMAN
Post by: Jimmy T on July 04, 2016, 01:37:20 PM
Still really really enjoyed issue #1! Keep it coming!!

And Gleason's art is just fine by me. Nothing bothers me about it, to be honest.


Title: Re: REBIRTH - SUPERMAN
Post by: Perry on July 04, 2016, 02:10:39 PM

And Gleason's art is just fine by me. Nothing bothers me about it, to be honest.

You lucky bastard !!  ;D ;)

I mean, I do enjoy his storytelling. He knows "how to draw", but those mouths and like Jeff says, the occasional big eyes ... big enough to make Manga characters envious, are just too distracting at times. This mouth man, look at THIS (http://4thletter.net/wp-content/uploads//bar18c.jpg) mouth
 ;D

But so far the writing is keeping me involved enough to look past the awkward panel here and there.
 :)


Title: Re: REBIRTH - SUPERMAN
Post by: Perry on July 22, 2016, 01:18:56 PM
Superman #3

Still keeping my enjoyment level up, though I wish I had a further history of this issues ... guest star  ;D but I am just not familiar. Though that is all do to my past non-readership I had with Superman I am sure. I hope. Regardless, still another pretty good issue.

7 outta 10 ways to feel like it's the 90's again?  ;)


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on August 15, 2016, 06:55:33 PM
Superman 3 & 4

I love me Eradicator stories. What a great element brought in by Byrne and the original Crisis change. I love how that character changed and grew so much in prior volumes. I'm excited to see it back here, and I'm curious how it will grow and change.

That...absorption of Krypto was really weird....however, ...I'll just let it slide. Was Krypto changed into energy? Was mass converter into another form of matter? Whatever, I'll deal with it.

Young Jon...I'm still okay with. However, he's nearly at that point where I get angry with comic children wanting to jump into the fray. Just because he knows he has super powers, that doesn't change his child attitude that would normally present as fear with adults fighting. But, he's not there quite yet. And, when he does jump in, it's when he's supported by his parents to do so. And when they tell him to back off, he does that as well. So, at least that is still working.


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on August 20, 2016, 06:26:40 AM
Issue #5

Dear lord, this Eradicator story is killing me. He
ate Superman?!?!?! WTF??? Absorbed his essence like Krypto?
Whatever you want to call it, how the hell did he do that?
UGH.

Loved the young Supes reaction, Lois' "fight" she had in her and of course, the
Lunar Batcave
 ;D, but I can't wait for this story to be over and this character gone. There is still good stuff here that would normally grade this an "A", but for me "E" stands for Eradicator

7 outta 10 chewable Tums!!!!
  ;D


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on August 21, 2016, 08:37:30 PM
This Eradicator story almost lost me on this series.  But now that's over we can get back to the cool stuff that this series was starting to do.  At least I hope so!


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on October 07, 2016, 07:11:24 PM
Issue #8

OH BOY !!! Some great "guest stars" ... that are not really in this issue and have long since been gone !!!  ;)

Great, fun issue all around. Looking forward to this arc, greatly.

But,
I'm all for not letting my son see dead soldiers (haunted tank?) but at least grab the dog-tags to give to the families of those lost ones so they can have closure, Clark. Jeez  :-\

 ;D

Yep, good start. I think we're back on track with this title.  8)

7 outta 10 Prehistoric Dental Plans
 :)


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on October 18, 2016, 06:04:30 PM
So, I'll agree-this Eradicator story went far too long. And the whole swallowing a being (by moving mass to some other dimension while not shifting mass ((which I argue as two beings fly to the moon to fight within moments and not 3 days of flight??? :D :D )) ) but I digress. A bit too long.

But I liked the way Jon, Lois, and Clark the father acted during this time. Kid tried to storm in, he was warned, did it, got hurt, got told to sit the sidelines, he did, and only acted then again upon parents' okay. Better than some doofus tv star sitcom kid!!

Up through issue #8

I love this Superman by Gleason and Tomasi. A real family fan, a real stalwart hero, leading figure...and a father trying to lead as his own father would have. Love the shout out to Cooke's old war story, and I'm just glad to see how this book has been handled and led forward. Very near, and right almost even with Action for me.

Goofy eyes and smiles, too.  ;)


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on October 23, 2016, 07:21:54 AM
I can appreciate your thoughts on the Supe's stuff, Jimmy, I agree.

But ...

Issue #9

Quite possibly my favorite single issue of the year!!!! Now it could have been the perfect blend of mood and comic, but either way I am currently struggling trying to recall an issue I had better enjoyment reading this year. To be honest, I don't even want to try to come up with an answer now as I just want to be content in this warm blanket that was issue Superman #9
 :)

Issue #8, the first part of this was an interesting issue, but add in this one and POW !! I only wish I would have read issue #8 and #9 together and got the full "collected" feel of the story. Still, just yeah, great stuff.

From (slight spoilers ahead) ....
Krypto being a dog and getting the "ball"  ;) to a great new limb, to Pterodactyl Airlines, to the eye, to the figure standing at the entrance of the cave that I can't make out (who is he?!?!),
all of that and more combine to make this rating one of the easiest yet.

10 outta 10 ways to train a dragon
 :)


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on November 03, 2016, 07:52:20 AM
Superman Issue #10

While this issue wasn't as fun as the last, I still find myself digging this title. Even through those damn Gleason faces and eyes, I find this title not just worth a look, but worth a pick up and take home
 ;)

We find this issue to be more of an intro to DC's newest upcoming title, "Super Sons", and hey it works. I am really looking forward to that book as I think the conflict (and eventually friendship) will be an amazing thing to see. There will be one panel in the future of Super Sons that will show us Damien, making someone that hurt Jon's feelings just right out cry, just by using his words. I'm calling it now.
 ;D

So yeah, so while this title wasn't really a "Superman" issue, it was a good Superman family issue. And hey, that is just super.

8 outta 10 - future pals
 ;)


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on November 13, 2016, 07:46:50 PM
Issue #9

Enjoyed this 2-parter. Wonderful nod to the lost Darwyn Cooke, and this team continues to do well by me to show that Jon is a boy, a Superboy, but a boy nonetheless that is a good boy who listens to his father, but is still excitable enough to try and do stuff that dad does, but nothing in the manner that is a horrible sitcom or bad movie trope.

Love that I've been enjoying 2 Superman titles so much over the last 5 months!!!


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on November 26, 2016, 07:26:05 AM
Issue 11

Hurry and catch up, Jimmy !!!!! Damn it, man !!!  :D

Okay, so, this issue, It wasn't written perfectly to say the least. There are severe timing/pacing issues all over this book and some stretches of the imagination as well, but hell, we are talking about a caped Super-Hero book. Stretching the imagination is a given, right?
 :)

This was, even as poorly as I feel it was constructed, one heck of a book. It hearkens back to the old days of comics. Pure and simple. It was a fun as hell romp. Just let your pacing issue go, kick back and enjoy this issue.

This title is really starting to hit for me. The last four or five issues alone have made this title a top book for me. A Superman book? This book? THE Superman book ... though some could argue, rightfully so, that Action Comics is historically THE Superman book
 ;D

Another setup for Super-Sons, but this is one company mandate (pushing the kids into recognition) that is a true winner.

8 outta 10 - letter "I"s in the word "Team"
 ;D


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on November 26, 2016, 12:45:59 PM
Man, I need to catch up too.


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on November 30, 2016, 07:56:32 PM
Caught up through

ISSUE 11

So damned cool. I honestly do love me some World's Finest sons (but I still hate Damien. Hate him! Always have!!) ;) :D

But a damned cool adventure, and DC has sold me on making, and keeping, Superman and Batman as parents.

As having kids in comics, and it still being an okay thing, and hell, even a fun thing!


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on December 09, 2016, 05:54:33 AM
Superman #12

Frankenstein.

All I needed to be pleased about this comic.  :)

A good issue, for what it was, though I am left a little saddened by the fact that at the end of the issue,
when we are shown who was masquerading, I have no idea who this guy/girl/alien named Kroog is, so I am hoping he/she/it is a new character, but I will go and do some research soon to find out.

Basically a two part fill-in story I think, but still pretty enjoyable even knowing that. Other than the fact it feels like a two page fill-in story
 :-\ ;)

But hey, Franky !!!!

7 outta 10 - employment walk-throughs gone wrong
 ;D


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on January 14, 2017, 07:58:29 PM
Superman #12

Frankenstein.

All I needed to be pleased about this comic.  :)

A good issue, for what it was, though I am left a little saddened by the fact that at the end of the issue,
when we are shown who was masquerading, I have no idea who this guy/girl/alien named Kroog is, so I am hoping he/she/it is a new character, but I will go and do some research soon to find out.

Basically a two part fill-in story I think, but still pretty enjoyable even knowing that. Other than the fact it feels like a two page fill-in story
 :-\ ;)

But hey, Franky !!!!

7 outta 10 - employment walk-throughs gone wrong
 ;D

I second all your motions. Frank looks great!! But man, this Superman sure has no problem with throwing a punch first and figuring out why later (go back to stuff with Lex in the first issues, anyone he doesn't know off the bat/Godslayer dudes) Just noticed this. ;D


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on January 22, 2017, 12:18:05 PM
Multiplicity!!!! Loving it!!!!


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on January 23, 2017, 01:49:29 PM
Starting it soon!!!


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on August 11, 2017, 06:44:04 PM
26 & 27

So much just family stuff and growth. I really love the fact that this book gets the chance to breath and do what it wants with the raising of Jon and parenting. I'm glad it's not all about 'what are Jon's powers?' or always putting him in harms way. Or having Jon react as the spoiled and annoying comic trope. I've always said that will put me off the character, but so far, it's all going to the good.


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on August 12, 2017, 03:08:23 AM
This book I am still reading (trying to) but with so many new #1's to peek at, I have just been falling off. Nothing against Supes this time as I am also about 4 months behind on Detective Comics.
That wouldn't be too bad usually, being 4 issues behind, but with that bi-weekly shipping ... well ... 4 becomes 8 quite easily.

Think about that. In two more months I could be (relatively speaking) a year behind on Detective and Superman, just since May or so
 :D :-\ :) :-[



Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on August 12, 2017, 06:18:40 AM

Think about that. In two more months I could be (relatively speaking) a year behind on Detective and Superman, just since May or so
 :D :-\ :) :-[


That's what happened to me with almost all of my DC reading.  It's really hard to get caught up once your 8 or more issues behind on multiple series.   :'(


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on August 24, 2017, 06:58:01 PM
28

I ready a 'review' at BC where the reviewer thought it very morbid about Superman returning the dead soldier skeleton to leave on a picnic table. Even after reading it, I wasn't indignantly irritated as the reviewer was. Not sure if I was as sold as the return method, but I overall did love this story. I love being reminded of patriotism. Not just Ameridcan history, but of patriotism to the country. So, I'm glad for reading this

29
A fill in writer by Keith Champagne (hwho's name I haven't seen by the Big 2 in some time!) takes on a big spoiler invovling Parallax, and Sinestro?! He's believed dead in GL books, and he appears in a fill-in writer's tale? Damn, that's ballsy! But also, a good adventure story that I really enjoyed reading the entire time


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on September 06, 2017, 06:38:33 AM
I skimmed through issue #29, Jimmy. And while this isn't really a spoiler, it is in a way so ...
We are different in out opinions here.  :D I picked the wrong time to try and make room for this title again. ;D Me no likey this. But again I didn't "read" the entire thing, just a few panels here and there, so that may have damned my opinion of it.  :D
Still, I will try again next month when the A-Team returns as I do find myself missing ... The Red & Blue Cheese (Dr. Sivana)
 ;)


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on September 11, 2017, 05:56:04 PM
Well, I wouldn't call it Shakespeare, but for an adventure tale, I get it. I'm not sure I care for the cliffhanger rising action of the issue, but I certainly liked the pairing with this villain and Supes.

No apologies needed here; all tastes may vary. ;)


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on September 27, 2017, 05:41:31 PM
Still enjoyed #30. Fun to watch an utterly fearless Sinestro across from the utterly invulnerable Superman. Fun pairing!


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on December 27, 2017, 06:35:15 PM
So Jimmy, how much did you jump up and down with glee when the news hit that Bendis will indeed be taking over Superman here in a couple months?
 ;)

At least Reis is coming on with the art ... something that apparently punches Geoff Johns in the balls?

Good news is it can't be as bad as Walking Across the US Superman from back in the day.



Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on December 27, 2017, 06:40:51 PM
That JMS Superman arc, coupled with his 90's chick Wonder Woman, is more or less what drove him away from being liked in comics.

YEah...Bendis...Superman...unless he can truly write his love for the character, and have it come across without so much public recrimination....

Then again, if he writes Superman like, say, Luke Cage, we, meaning ME, could be in an okay place!!


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on December 27, 2017, 06:42:38 PM
Single character.  He should do great on Supes.

Although Iím not sure Iím ready for an alcoholic reporter investigating the streets of Metropolis after having his mind taken over by the purple man.....oh wait a minute....


Title: Re: SUPERMAN - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on December 28, 2017, 05:45:00 AM
Then again, if he writes Superman like, say, Luke Cage, we, meaning ME, could be in an okay place!!

 ;D
Very true. And I think our buddy Jeff nailed it ...

Single character.  He should do great on Supes.

Totally agree. Give him more than three main characters (or four in the case of Defenders  ;D) and Bendis just implodes. He really writes the shit of of titles that showcase just one or two characters. I know I look forward to reading this, although I have never seen Bendis write someone with that ... man I hate to use this overused and not really accurate term, but ... boyscout attitude, so that worries me, but maybe, just maybe, it could be his best yet!!!