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Title: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on June 01, 2016, 06:11:25 PM
Hurry up and get here !!!  ;)


Title: Re: REBIRTH - FLASH
Post by: Jeff on June 08, 2016, 10:23:17 AM
It's here!

Finally one that tied in with DC Reibirth.  Nothing new here but an issue to get us ramped up.  I'm there already! Let's get moving!

Looking forward to whatever event this leading up to and on board the Flash train.


Title: Re: REBIRTH - FLASH
Post by: Perry on June 10, 2016, 06:59:22 AM
And finally, I read it!!!

First and foremost ... HOORAY!!! While yes, like Jeff said, this was more a continuation/set-up issue, but damn was it good. The art, almost Travel Foreman like, yet not as abstract, also had a hint of Infantino in it (if you look at Flash run you can see it) and while I am not normally a fan of either of those art styles, together they work. And work well. Hell even that awful damn lightning/ lines on Barry's costume looked great, and THAT is saying something.

Really can't wait for this #1 to hit now. So glad this worked for me.

8 outta 10 memories ... light the corners of my mind
 ;)


Title: Re: REBIRTH - FLASH
Post by: Jimmy T on June 19, 2016, 05:59:29 AM
What the hell Jim, you missed seeing this on the shelf? Moron!!


Title: Re: REBIRTH - FLASH
Post by: Perry on June 19, 2016, 09:16:05 AM
What the hell Jim, you missed seeing this on the shelf? Moron!!

Probably just sold out. Which is good. Well, I mean for DC, not for you of course  :D


Title: Re: REBIRTH - FLASH
Post by: Jeff on June 22, 2016, 08:43:39 PM
Issue 1

Not a fan yet, but not a hater yet either.  Well, except maybe a hater of the art.  Really hard for me to look at.

I just hope we aren't about to get...
yet another speedster since we also now have the two Wally's.   >:(


Title: Re: REBIRTH - FLASH
Post by: Jimmy T on July 23, 2016, 08:17:50 AM
Well, this helping me come back to the Flash fold. I prefer a more knowledgeable (comic-version) Barry Allen, than the slipshod goof that was most of the Peter Parker -inspired Barry of the New 52 writing.

The art really reminds me of Stefano Claudinelli, so it actually helps me a little bit. ;)


Title: Re: REBIRTH - FLASH
Post by: Perry on July 23, 2016, 02:05:03 PM
Still have to read issues 1 and 2.

Need to get on that as #3 is out this Wednesday !!!


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on August 14, 2016, 10:18:56 PM
Hmmm, issue #4 kinda fell off for me although ... man ... the art was so much cleaner. I liked that, but I also missed the "violent" looking art of the first three issues. Still, this seemed more of a filler or sidetrack after issue #3's ending.

It was okay.


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on August 15, 2016, 06:29:43 PM
Issue #4

It was okay. I think for me, this comes down to that I don't...care? or like? the books current supporting cast. I don't like August in the slightest, the scientist lady is a brilliant sexy cypher character, and this Iris is a Lois Lane....but I think she always was a clone of Lois, anyways? And Wally2 still does not interest me in the slightest.

That, and I still hate the lines on the uniform. One of the GREATEST costumes ruined by Jim Lee's design. Ugh.

The story is okay, and it will only be okay in hindsight as long as NO ONE is left with speed powers when it's all said and done.


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on August 16, 2016, 06:11:50 AM
They just better come back to that character at the end of issue #3 soon. Much like Justice League, that one single panel pushed the book higher up my rankings for, if nothing else, the "what could happen" aspect.


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on October 18, 2016, 06:21:46 PM
Well, if I quote myself from before

it will only be okay as long as NO ONE is left with speed powers when it's all said and done.

Nearly, almost, and close to the mark. Just not close enough!!!

By issue 8, some of the clunky stuff I complain about seemed to soften up around the edges and fit better to me as I read it. I think I may be more on board the title than I thought I was, originally.

As I said earlier, watching old school Barry be put through the wringer when matched up against current comic writing ideals is fun. He still won out, but in a hard way.

So, I'm pretty cool with the title. Continuing on!!


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on October 29, 2016, 06:19:24 PM
I think I just don't like Joshua Williamson's Superhero writing.

After reading the latest Flash issue (#9), the meeting of the two Wally's, I found myself comparing his writing to that of a certain James Robinson. There is a little hidden style of throwing exposition in the writing that just bugs me at times. I was going to remember what it was in this particular issue that hit me that way, I was, truly, but I have of course forgotten. Still, there is something here, and in just about every other Flash issue he has written that just sticks its nose out while I am reading that ... doesn't "ruin" the issue with stink, but puts just enough of an odor that I am not overly pleased with the smell.

Not sure why, and I wish I could say maybe it is just his Flash run, but I didn't enjoy his Illuminati title either for similar reasons. He is just pointing his finger too much at times instead of letting the art tell us what we need to know. And again, not always and not in large chunks, but still...
 :(

I wonder if it is something he feels he needs to do in company owned books because I have not yet noticed the same thing in any of his other books at Image. His creator stuff has a constant enough flow where he doesn't make my mind come to a halt due to trying to point something out. Of course now that I say that, Maybe in his Nailbiter I have noticed it a time or two as well, but not in his Ghosted nor Birthright (which I am admittedly waaaay behind on).

And of course I have to be honest and say that the regular artist on this book, not this latest issue #9, but on the other issues, also keeps me at arms distance from going all in on this title as his style works very well in showcasing those lightning bolts and streaks of ink and scratchy lines that has become a staple of Barry's look for way too long. A look I just don't like. Heck this issue, with the fill-in artist, still made Barry and younger Wally out to be just all kinds of scratchy looking, with only the older Wally having some resemblance of what the Flash use to look like. Just a nice clean outfit/suit/costume with some blur every now and then. Remember that? Now all the Flash seems to look like is Bill the Cat. Quick, is THIS (http://iseethefrog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Bill-the-Cat.png) Flash or Bill? You struggle with an answer don't you?

Ugh, I want to like this, but when all is said and drawn, I just don't. Sorry Barry. It's not you, its me.


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on November 02, 2016, 06:42:31 PM
I was just coming in to say that I think I'm realliy on board with the title. :)

Looking back over the body of these 9 issues (not each issue as a single particular, but parts of the whole), then I found that I was enjoying my time on the book. Oh, it's not winning on every beat, or killing it each week and beating all comers to the top of my stack, but I'm glad to have read them.

I would like a different sort of artist. This obnoxious lighting bolt blasting everywhere off the suit reminds me of Venom's tongue when first drawn by Erik Larsen. Sure, it was a large creepy reptile tongue by creator Todd MacFarlane, but Larsen made it this obnoxious 9 foot slime snake that has only been aped and copied since. I...am not a fan of that.

Just as I am not a fan of this rendition of the Scarlet Speedster from the New52 till now.


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on November 03, 2016, 03:02:39 AM
Certainly glad it is hitting for the biggest Flash fan here.
 :)


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on November 26, 2016, 07:54:13 AM
So I was at one of the LCS's yesterday and a guy told me about a post .... from BC(? ... maybe?) (or a podcast ... I can't really remember now) involving a Reddit post about the Flash and all the lightning around the characters. I never knew about this lightning color thing, though I am sure others have, but I thought it was a cool aspect, so I looked it up and here it is, from poster "Steven_is_Awesome" ... copy and paste from Reddit - HERE (https://www.reddit.com/r/DCcomics/comments/4wniyq/speed_force_lightning_colors_explained_new/)
(And I did make the link in the article linkable so you can check that out if you wish as well)
 ;)
(Sorry I can't give credit to the person/article/podcast that Brian heard it from originally)
 :-[

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I recently tweeted to Brett Booth, the former Flash artist and current Titans artist, asking for some clarification on what the different colors of the speeders' lightning means. This is what he had to say.

"the closer you go to light speed the colors shift. So red is the slowest. Blue and indigo are fastest."
This is called blueshift, which you can read more about here (http://nerdist.com/the-flash-is-only-red-when-he-stands-still/).
He said that future Barry, in the "Out of Time" storyline had blue lightning because: "the blue means heís tapped further into the Speedforce and is faster than present Barry. Mostly from the suit."
The blueshift effect makes sense because at the beginning of the New 52, Barry had red lightning and now he has yellow. During this time he got faster, causing his lightning to change color.
I also asked if Professor Zoom generates black lightning, or if that is ripples from his suit and he replied saying: "in my mind.. Neither!" I then asked what it means in his mind, with him replying, "canít say. You never know what the future holds!"
So we may get an explanation in the future of what black lighting means.
Last but not least he explained that white lightning is generated when a speedster is speeding up time, like Barry did in his fight with Eobard. I asked if this means Wally (who's new design has white lightning) has the power to speed up time. He replied saying, "maybe. White in light is all colors combined!"
So his white lightning could maybe be caused because he can move faster than light, causing all the colors to combine.
So this is the explanation for lightning colors, at least in the post-flashpoint continuity.
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So essentially - Speedsters with certain colors of lightning can only go at certain speeds -
Red lightning is the slowest (see Wally .... shit ... see the newest Wally ... shit ... see the newest new Wally  >:()
then it goes Orange lightning, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo/Purple, Violet
Ya know, the color spectrum. Just never thought about looking at the lightning for speed clues
 :D

The reason why I posted this, is I just finished Titans #5 today and I couldn't help but think of this as I was looking at the images and reading what was being said. I am not giving anything away, especially in a Flash thread and not the Titans thread :D (there really isn't much to say really), but knowing what I know now and seeing this past issue ... it just made it better. Ya know? Of course it also made the issue prior, or the one before that, even more infuriating, for reasons you should understand if you read the issues or my thoughts on them at least.
 >:(

But anyway, I thought this was cool and I never knew!!!!

...and for my rating for the current issue of Titans ... go there.
 :)


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on January 11, 2017, 08:12:01 PM
Flash #12

Ugh. This Speed of Darkness storyline, with the really REALLY fill in artist was mostly garbage and junk. 1990s James Robinson is spinning in his creative 90's grave with how Shade and Hope O'Dare were treated.

Then I remembered-THIS is the guy writing JL vs Suicide Squad? Is there really any hope for that if it matches these two issues?

But then again, I was fine up until this fill in.

I dunno; hot and cold, hot and cold....


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on January 12, 2017, 08:50:26 PM
I finally just deleted this from my wish list.  Just so many other titles I want to read.


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on January 13, 2017, 07:12:11 PM
Then I remembered-THIS is the guy writing JL vs Suicide Squad? Is there really any hope for that if it matches these two issues?

Maybe you will like it, as it is the same guy that writes your Birthright title you enjoy so much, so cross them fingers  :) Even though his DC writing seems, to me, so far away from all of his Image stuff. I just have not been impressed with his DC stuff so far. I liked the JLA/SS stuff originally, on a fast read, but when I re-read it ... not so much. BUt....

But for this title I am still hoping the return of the Rogues in Flash #14 will bring it back around.

EDIT - Well I just read the JLA vs SS #4 and that issue was really fun. I still have an issue with ... the Batvace (you will find out), but overall I am enjoying this. It does seem to get better and better so that's something.


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on January 14, 2017, 07:56:24 PM
Then I remembered-THIS is the guy writing JL vs Suicide Squad? Is there really any hope for that if it matches these two issues?

Maybe you will like it, as it is the same guy that writes your Birthright title you enjoy so much, so cross them fingers  :) Even though his DC writing seems, to me, so far away from all of his Image stuff. I just have not been impressed with his DC stuff so far. I liked the JLA/SS stuff originally, on a fast read, but when I re-read it ... not so much. BUt....

Holy crap, you're right. I'm starting to lose track of writers and artists names with so much digital reading and trade buying. I need to wake back up!!

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But for this title I am still hoping the return of the Rogues in Flash #14 will bring it back around.

that's rather what I'm holding out for. Otherwise,I was going to join the rest of you and drop the book. Maybe it was just a bad 2 issues, and I'll be fine with the rest as it drops to the newsstand.


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on January 15, 2017, 10:29:15 AM
I almost "stayed on" like you guys for the Rogues.  Not sure I can call it that since I haven't read this since issue 3.  :D

I'll wait to see what Jimmy says after reading the Rogues arc.


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Jimmy T on June 16, 2017, 01:48:40 PM
Feels so good to have dropped this!!!

Not even calling the title bad, but I did not enjoy reading it any longer. Sour milk, sour wine, sour something, but it just didn't taste good to me anymore.


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on June 17, 2017, 04:30:22 AM
I miss it not


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on June 17, 2017, 05:12:32 AM
Good to know I don't need to catch up on this one.


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on June 28, 2019, 12:46:29 PM
So Jeff, I know you jumped back on for a few issues recently, but can't remember if you jumped back off ... are you still on this? I just heard that the Turtle is over in Flash now in a year one type Barry story and was wondering how that was going. If you knew


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Jeff on June 28, 2019, 12:58:21 PM
So Jeff, I know you jumped back on for a few issues recently, but can't remember if you jumped back off ... are you still on this? I just heard that the Turtle is over in Flash now in a year one type Barry story and was wondering how that was going. If you knew


I dropped it when I temporarily boycotted all DC Comics and did not jump back on when my boycott was over.  In fact I only added back Action, Doomsday Clock, Freedom Fighters, and Event Leviathan.


Title: Re: FLASH - REBIRTH
Post by: Perry on June 29, 2019, 06:12:44 AM
I dropped it when I temporarily boycotted all DC Comics ...

OH YEAH!! I forgot about that. Okay then, I guess that makes it easier for me  ;D
Thanks