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Title: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: troyfreund on January 22, 2009, 03:26:49 PM
Annual 2
OK, a pretty good issue about the White Queen.  I enjoyed the writing, enjoyed both artists (particularly Acuna's Hellfire Club hotties), but do have a couple questions...
--What was the point of the first three pages with Namor?  It was a neat scene, but I am perplexed as to how it related to the whole story.
--When Namor and Emma met in "The Club," who are the soldier-looking guys standing around as they talk?
--Oh yeah, why is this Annual #2?  Uncanny has had lots of annuals before, when did they start renumbering them?
Color me mildly confused,
Troy



Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: sinisteri on January 23, 2009, 12:09:48 AM
Ya know,

You make good point, but I think that the last Morrison Annual was from what this one takes off. There was such a gap between annuals that there is a generational separttion(pure theory).

The guards were Hellfire Club mercenaries which artistically still stand out. I loved it though I think Emma may pay for her deception in the end game some day. I was so hungering for a face off between her and her former mentor slash abuser though. I want her and Selene to face off sometime in the future though.

Still no explanation for Namor's Dark Reign behavior.

I liked this story and miss all that good Hellfire Club stories can do.


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread #506
Post by: troyfreund on March 03, 2009, 07:35:03 AM
-Curious as to what's going on with Emma---lots of foreshadowing, little information...
-I really dig the "science squad" and am enjoying that thread, especially seeing Madison "Box" Jefferies back in action...
-Curious to see how Colossus' story unfolds, and how taking in the refugees affects the X-base dynamics..
--Another good issue-things happened, dialogue seems on and Dodson' art continues to impress.


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Jeff on March 03, 2009, 08:05:05 PM
I'm still reading but I wish they had a different artist.  It doesn't feel like the X-Men for some reason for me.



Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: sinisteri on March 04, 2009, 12:25:45 AM
One point,

We did not address this. It is funny when writers take liberties with characters. In this story, Selene is placed in the role of a telepath that Shaw uses at his whim. Selene's telepathy is not as strong as Emma's and deflinitely not in Xavier's league. I have always and still want to see Emma and Selene face off, but I take into account that Selene has never been depicted in a direct confrontation of a powerful telepath that wasn't a young girl. So, I say that her blasting Emma could be effective as any telepath could be caught off guard-- but erasing the events from her mind. Hmm... I miss the wicked ways of the backstabbing Hellfire Club.


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Herr Mike on March 04, 2009, 10:38:24 PM
I almost picked up the Dodson issues but I was afraid the story might lead into the Land issues, who is unreadable for me.


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Perry on March 06, 2009, 03:55:44 PM
... the Land issues, who is unreadable for me.

I kinda feel the same way. I won't go as far as "Unreadable", but I certainly don't enjoy it.

Funny thing, for me, I actually enjoyed his work on the old CrossGen book SOJOURN. I don't know if it was the over use of the colors brown and tan or what, but his "art"  (:D) seemed less ... distracting to me then. Maybe he was just using a thicker rice paper to trace.
 :D


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: troyfreund on April 15, 2009, 06:47:18 PM
Issue #508---lots of threads being juggled here, and most of them pretty well.  Whois the "dragon-girl"?  And the sisters who hate each other?  Am interested to see where it all goes and how it goes down.  Am not minding Land's artwork too much, getting used to it actually.  What do the rest of you think?  Particularly, of Madelyne Pryor's re-emergnce?
Troy


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: sinisteri on April 16, 2009, 12:24:36 AM
Love Maddie.

She is a villain who makes sense. Cyclops left her and their child to go after his true love. And she is just bad.

The two sisters are Mastermind's daughters who both go by the name Lady Mastermind and hate each other.

Not sure who Dragon chick is.

Kwannon, the Asian empath whose body Psylocke has been running around in for years. Not her fault, but the culprit who did the mind switch/mix with them was Spiral who is also their for the party.



Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: troyfreund on June 02, 2009, 08:39:21 AM
#510--good issue.  Not really interested in Pixie, but Fraction seems to love her.  I am VERY interested to see what the Sisterhood does with what they stole from Wolverine.  Could be very interesting.  Also, said it before and I'll say it again--I want "ugly Lady Deathstrike" back.  I can appreciate the "hot villainess" as much as anyone, but it gets old when they ALL fit the "hot villainess" look.  Greg Lang, meh.


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread #511, 512 and Utopia 1
Post by: troyfreund on June 30, 2009, 05:11:38 AM
511:  decent conclusion to the Sisterhood, but not really all that great.  Seems like the story wrapped up too quickly, with little explanation of what exactly happened.

512:  Fun to see Paquette's artwork again.  Haven't seen him in a while.  Great Victorian story with some interesting story twists, particularly the last page.  I enjoyed it.  Interested to see where the Beast's quest goes now.

Utopia 1:  Boy, didn't realize how much I missed Silvestri on an X-book!  This was fun, but I don't think I can continue to suspend my disbelief in the 616 fear of mutants, considering all the other more-freaky, non-mutant heroes in the 616-world.  Still, a fun book, despite the NINE different inkers on this book.  Dang.


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: troyfreund on August 16, 2009, 06:14:48 PM
#514-Utopia Chapter 4
-diggin' the Dodson's artwork--such beautiful smooth lines,
-really appreciate seeing Cloak and Dagger in action again,
-curious as to where the X-folks are gonna move to, kinda sad that they're gonna be leaving San Fran so soon...


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: troyfreund on November 05, 2009, 07:01:32 AM
Uncanny X-Men 516
-NICE cover.  Never been too big of a Magneto fan, but that sure is one nice cover.
-Interested to see where the Cyclops-Magneto alliance goes
-It was fun to see Prof. X get kinda pissy. :)
-Could Mags be working with the folks who've sent the Predator Xs on their way?
-Still don't like Land's artwork much, but it could be worse, that's for sure


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: sinisteri on November 08, 2009, 12:54:56 AM
Nation-X

Will be interesting to see how this ultimately turns out as alliances with Magneto never turn out well. Did you notice him perk up about Hope's survival with Cable. I wonder how long Emma will be Diamond and if it will add anything to the overall story. The last time Cyclops love interest went all cold on him-- he found comforst elsewhere. Cyke has a pattern.

I like the use of Emplate though


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Rich on November 12, 2009, 10:45:02 AM
I think that Fraction is really hitting his stride here.  I really do like that Scott has kind of taken "the Dream" and made it his own.  So much so that Xavier is kind of out in the cold, which I'm okay with.  I always thought he was a little too stuffy and obnoxious.  Really, though, he'd better serve the cause as a corpse.  Of course that would make him a martyr, and would probably draw lots of terrorist comparisons.  So maybe not.  But I really don't like him much these days.


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: sinisteri on November 15, 2009, 09:52:19 PM
Aw,

I still like Xavier when he is written well. I do not believe he should be apologetic for making decisions in the past. He had no rule book and not a lot of trustworthy help around him at that time. And now, Scott is stuck in a position where he is having to make hard choices that he does not like. Between the two, I like when Xavier is strong and lets loose with the most powerul mutant mind on the planet( a few times removed now). As for Scott, he has abandoned one wife and cheated on the other. I have never cared for him much as a character, but I like him with Emma... but do keep in mind that he does have a wandering eye when his ladies turn too cold(poor Jean and now maybe Diamond Emma).

Strategically, Xavier is at his best when teaching mutants how to use their power. And I am not sure if he is being used well in that capacity. Come on writers.

And is it just me, or does it never seem like a good idea to concentrate all the mutants on one big target?


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Rich on November 24, 2009, 07:40:52 AM
That's a really good point about all the mutants in one spot.  Though you could counter-argue that it makes it easier to defend all the remaining mutants if they aren't wandering all over the place.

But honestly, I'm with you on this one.  If they're spread out, to the four corners of the globe, then it would be hard for someone like, say Stryker (who I believe is dead, but I'm using him just as an example) to wipe them all out in one fell swoop.  It would take an operation of some considerable manpower quite a while to figure out where each was, and take them out.

Kind of a guerilla man/mutant war.


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: troyfreund on February 12, 2010, 03:49:27 PM
anyone following this book?  What's Magneto getting up too?  Anything I'm missing out on by not following this?


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Jeff on February 12, 2010, 04:03:15 PM
I finally dropped it this year.  It was starting to suffer from having too many mutants in it.  I find it ironic that there are so many mutants on this island but in the 3 or 4 X-books that are out there they only show the same 5 or 6 characters.

I'll probably pick up any issues that crossover with the upcoming Second Coming storyline since it has to do with Cable and Hope returning from the future.



Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Rich on February 14, 2010, 03:24:24 PM
I still read it.  I think Fraction is doing a fine job.  Mags is forming an alliance with Namor on behalf of the mutants on the island, and is taking orders from Scott pretty well...for now.  The island was sinking, but Magneto got Namor to re-settle Atlantis beneath the island, and create a column that supports the island and gives them protection.


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Jeff on April 02, 2010, 11:06:49 AM
Issue #522

(http://media.mycomicshop.com/iss/300w/596/95961/19822391_1.jpg)

Anybody pick this up??

Dangit!  I may have to start buying this again.  Fraction finally wrote the X-Men in the way I enjoy them.  Love the way he brought Kitty back (not really a spoiler since it says it on the cover) and I loved the Whilce Portacio art.

Kitty Pride tends to be the heart of the X-Men and I hope she gets a proper treatment by Fraction.  Nice way it didn't wrap up nicely and built some drama for future stories.

And how about Magneto?  Is there anything his power can't do?



Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Perry on April 02, 2010, 11:32:22 AM
Screw that, Jeff ... you state "issue #522" right at the start of your post ... spoil me.
 ;)

How did Kitty come back?


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Jeff on April 02, 2010, 11:51:58 AM
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ok - that was overkill.   ;D


Mag's goes up to the mountain top and basically goes into a trance and literally pulls the bullet back to earth with his powers.  He doesn't tell anyone what he's doing so everyone's kind of freaking out.  But once they realize they go to a lot of trouble to hide the bullet from satilites, etc so as not to cause a panic.  Funny scene - they get a call from Reed Richards where he says "uh..what are you guys doing?  You can't hide anything from my satelites"  Once the bullet gets back, Mags rips it apart and slowly lowers Kitty to the ground.  BIG SPOILER - she goes to hug Colossus and phases through him.  She's been phased for so long she can't un-phase back.  Story ends with her in what looks like a bacta tank from Empire Strikes Back.  Mag's is in a coma from overdoing it with his powers.

That synopsis didn't do it justice, of course.  Really good issue.


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Jeff on April 06, 2010, 09:14:17 AM
Coming out tomorrow, April 7!

(http://www.herorealm.com/images/Previews/MarvelPreviews/April_2010/Thumbs/xspot/118_UNCANNY_X_MEN_523_FINCH_VARIANT_.jpg)(http://www.herorealm.com/images/Previews/MarvelPreviews/April_2010/Thumbs/xspot/119_UNCANNY_X_MEN_523.jpg)

UNCANNY X-MEN #523

SECOND COMING, CHAPTER TWO
The race to find Cable and Hope is on, but who will get to them first? Will it be Cyclops and the X-Men or Bastion and his mutant-hating cabal? Cyclops isn’t waiting for the answer to that as takes the fight directly to Bastion with the New Mutants!

POST COMMENTS IN THE X-MEN SECOND COMING THREAD - HERE! (http://www.herorealm.com/hrboards/index.php?topic=4098.0)



Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Jeff on September 23, 2010, 10:40:03 AM
Coming out in October!


(http://i.newsarama.com/images/140_uncanny_x_men_529_02.jpg)

UNCANNY X-MEN #529
Written by MATT FRACTION
Penciled by WHILCE PORTACIO
Cover by TERRY DODSON
Vampire Variant by MIKE MAYHEW
“THE FIVE LIGHTS”
If “Light #4” registered in Kiev, Ukraine, then why the heck isn’t he there? The X-Men race to find the latest of the new mutant activations while things come to a head between Emma Frost and her prisoner Sebastian Shaw! Part 4 (of Four)


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Jeff on February 21, 2011, 03:33:12 PM
Coming out Wednesday, February 23rd....


(http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/iss/120/596/95961/969143.jpg)

Uncanny X-Men 533

Written by MATT FRACTION & KIERON GILLEN Pencils & Cover by GREG LAND

'QUARANTINE' Part 4 (of 5)-The public gets what the public wants - and the public wants 'X-Men.' The Sublime Corporation is here to provide, at a cost. Both financially and for the safety of the entire world. It's the gala product launch that everyone will be talking about. If only the actual X-Men weren't dying of the power-sapping flu on Utopia so they could stop this. 32 PGS./Rated T+ Cover price $3.99.


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Perry on March 12, 2011, 06:04:57 AM
So ... I knew this would happen (thanks a lot F'n X-FACTOR !!  >:(), I am now thinking about adding UNCANNY to my pull and was wondering if the team of Fraction/Gillen has been any good? I flipped through the last issue at the LCS and it looks to be pretty good, even with the Land art.

Worth adding now and tracking down the Quarantine arc?

And in all honesty, I can't blame X-FACTOR for my desire to read X again. It was that damn ASTONISHING X-MEN motion Comic I just watched about 2 days ago. Can't stop thinking about how much I enjoyed that. Now I need a Kitty fix ...

... yeah ... I wrote that
 ::)


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Jeff on March 12, 2011, 06:14:56 AM
It's not bad but because of the Land art I would say not a must read. I'm not a fan of the whole Utopia thing in San Fran but what they are doing with Kitty, Emma, and Fantomex is interesting.

Land's Dazzler is awful.  Looks nothing like like she should and she always has that stupid posed grin.


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Perry on March 12, 2011, 08:16:46 AM
Yeah, not a fan of Land, but the first few pages of 533 looked bearable.

So weird that when I first really noticed him, on CrossGen's SOJOURN, I really liked the look .. and then after about 4 issues ya just really get tired of the copy-pasta.

Still have to get my friends copies of X-Force 3 ... (and 4?) to catch up on PhantomX.


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Perry on March 13, 2011, 05:11:18 AM
Just read 533.

Not bad at all ... damn it.
 :D

Oh and sorry about the post above. That should be Fantomex, not Phantomex


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Perry on March 19, 2011, 02:10:05 PM
Just added UNCANNY to my pull (and requested issues 535 and 536 be added to my order)

..........  >:( .............

(See, Jeff? This is why I don't like to read about Mutants. Before long I will have to add that damn X-FORCE title and then it all goes to shit.
 >:(


 ;D


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Gay Titan on June 09, 2011, 09:17:33 AM
(http://i.newsarama.com/images/UncannyXMen_544_Covexr_02.jpg)


Press Release

X-MEN: SCHISM Brings UNCANNY X-MEN To An End!
 
"All things must come an end...even for the X-Men, and this October fans will bear witness the end of an era as Uncanny X-Men #544 concludes the long running series. It’s all come to this! Years in the making, the seeds of dissent finally bear fruit as the events of X-Men Schism tear the X-Men and the Marvel Universe apart! When the dust settles, the state of mutantkind will irreparably be changed forever. Don’t miss the historic final issue of the longest running X-Men title this October, in Uncanny X-Men #544!"


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Jeff on June 09, 2011, 10:57:03 AM
Ok - That pisses me off.  I mean really pisses me off.  There is no need to end this, the only Marvel book still running from its original start.  Especially since we all know they'll launch some other Uncanny X-Men title with a new #1 and then RE-NUMBER IT WHEN IT GETS TO THE MONTH THAT ISSUE 600 WOULD HAVE COME OUT.

Here's a thought - how about write good stories and hire great artists to sell books????  If you have to constantly go to a marketing gimmick then your product must be crap.

I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY HATE THIS!!


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Gay Titan on June 09, 2011, 12:27:06 PM
Jeff, you are absolutely correct. A new number #1 and a renumbering in time for the big 6-0-0.

I have always been curious why DC didn't do the same with the original JLA series. It's had half a dozen runs and should be well be past 300 or 400 issues by now.

And now we get 52+ brand new #1's ???? that is a HUGE marketing ploy.


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Gay Titan on June 16, 2011, 10:40:21 AM
Yep, we guessed it! A new #1 the very next month.

(http://i.newsarama.com/images/xmen_regenesis-bigx_02.jpg)


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Jeff on June 16, 2011, 06:47:28 PM
Ugh.  That art sucks.


Title: Re: Uncanny X-Men thread
Post by: Perry on June 17, 2011, 04:02:05 AM
Starting off with new number ones does indeed suck for us, the buyers of a title, but you can't just push aside the money generated from having that "#1" on the cover. Sales can jump 100% easily when a relaunch or renumbering occurs. For business's to not use that proven sales technique would be crazy.

When you are trying to increase readership (and thus increase profit) what do you do? You try to get more readers. A way to do that is to give them the perfect "jumping on point" and nothing says that like a big ole number 1 in the corner. As far as pissing off the 'current readers', such as us, they have us already. We will buy those number ones of our favorite titles and/or characters because they are our favorite titles and/or characters, but providing an entry point is a sound way to pull the readers they don't already have into giving 'your' title and/or character a try.

I don't like it, but I just can't blame a business that is doing no real harm to animals or people, for trying to make money.

I take over Marvel or DC ... I do 7, 10 or 12 issue runs on everything. EVERYTHING. As soon as an arc is over ... BAM ...
LOOKY, LOOKY ... A NEW NUMBER ONE !!!!

Look at LOCKE & KEY. A perfect example of how having a continuing story reset itself in chapters, can still be an effective and enjoyable product.

You are still going to get the readers you already have and you may ... may gain one or two more that happen to walk into a LCS, but with Barnes & Noble now taking monthlies and putting them back on the shelf (YAY), there is an even a better chance for grabbing new readers, getting those customers to feel a little at ease grabbing an issue #1 entry point, rather than a book with 587 past issues of potential confusion to muddle through. Yes, I know, it is no different as the stories still have the history behind them, so anyone picking up a new, shiny number one is still going to have a learning curve, but if it is really no different, then why should we, the ones that know how fun comics can be, worry about what number is on the issue?

Again, I don't like the renumbering, but I certainly understand it. I think this really pisses off the collectors more than the readers. That is not a jab at anyone  :), I can understand why Jeff (and others) would like to see their runs stay as ... well ... runs. It is nice to look in those comic boxes and just start counting off issues without any breaks, I do get that, but for the guy that just likes to read stories with good art, characterization and dialog, the numbers are not that important.

And like Jeff said, it will return to it's "original" numbering as soon as this mini-event "SCHISM" is over.
 :-\